"if you're on that no fly list, your access to the right to bear arms is canceled!" (Rahm Emanuel)

A story I missed from last month ties in with what I said earlier about using the "Bush did it too!" argument to justify Orwellian tactics.

According to this article, the Department of Homeland Security has placed a political enemy of Janet Napolitano on the DHS "No-Fly" list:

On July 16th, Arizona State Treasurer Dean Martin discovered he was on Department of Homeland Security's "No-Fly" list when he was "pulled aside by agents from the Transportation Security Administration," according to azfamily.com.

Martin was an outspoken critic of former Arizona Governor and current Secretary of Homeland Security (DHS). There's no doubt Napolitano has some hard feelings for Martin. He was one of the first open critics of her state-wide photo radar cameras (calling them unconstitutional), initiated by a single signature of Napolitano's dictatorial executive order. Back in January during a State Loan Commission meeting, he also gained some media attention when, as Chairman of the Arizona State Loan Commission, he attempted to warn Arizonans that the state would be facing a major budget crisis by March (which has come and gone) due to Napolitano's reckless spending as governor. This meeting took place right before she flew off to Washington to pursue her life-long career as a socialist politician. Before she hopped on a plane and left our great state, Martin criticized her in front of TV cameras at the meeting, calling journalistic attention to how devastating her policies have been to the people of Arizona. In typical Democrat fashion, she had a fit. And stormed out of the meeting.

Now Martin's on the "No-Fly" potential terrorist list. Democrats should be distancing themselves from Napolitano's actions by screaming bloody outrage at such disgusting abuse of governmental power. (Imagine if John Ashcroft were still head of DHS and a local Democrat Treasurer were put on a potential terrorist "No-Fly" list.

I'm sure there are those who believe that Ashcroft routinely put his political enemies on the No-Fly list whether he did or not. And since he might as well have, retaliation is perfectly OK. (About time the right wing enemies got a taste of their own medicine, eh?)

Mr. Martin joins a growing list which began with a few hundred people, and now runs to over a million names according to the ACLU. If the NRA is correct, the ACLU is understating the case. According to the latest issue of the NRA's America's First Freedom, the list is now at 1.5 million names, and growing. (Additional background here and here.)

Moreover, the No-Fly list is not intended to be limited to flying. If Frank Lautenberg and Rahm Emanuel have their way, these more than a million Americans (who don't have to be convicted of anything to get on the list) will lose their Second Amendment rights.

First, here's some vintage Rahm Emanuel, talking to the Brady Center in 2007:

Here's what Emanuel said he wanted:

"if you're on that no fly list, your access to the right to bear arms is canceled, because you're not part of the American Family - you don't deserve that right."

In June, one of the country's most notorious gun grabbers, New Jersey Senator Frank Lautenberg, introduced a bill (S. 1317, pdf here) which would make Rahm Emanuel's dream come true.

When I posted about this previously, Lautenberg had not yet introduced the bill, although I noted that the DHS under Janet Napolitano had already been suggesting that right wing groups (such as anti-abortion protesters, certain veterans, and people overly concerned with the loss of their Second Amendment rights) should be watched.

This morning I learned that the "suggestions" are coming from left wing activist groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

And on top of that, they would also seem to include political opponents of Janet Napolitano.

All of these and more are now earmarked to lose a fundamental constitutional rights if the Lautenberg bill passes.

I hate to be repetitive, but since Lautenberg won't quit, neither will I. Once again:

...this is a grotesque constitutional abuse. With the one hand, they want to expand the no fly list to include right wing political dissidents -- including, in a Kafkaesque twist, Americans who buy guns in fear that their rights will be taken away. And now with the other hand, they want to expand its use to deprive citizens (who haven't even been accused, much less charged with or convicted of crimes) of their Second Amendment rights. (If you're so paranoid that you think we're going to take your guns away, then we should take your guns away!)

I won't mince words here. For even threatening to introduce such a bill, I think Frank Lautenberg has violated his oath of office and disgraced the Senate.

I realize that at 85 he's still a young chap, but he's the best argument for term limits to come along since Robert Byrd.

Senator Lautenberg may not realize it, but according to the ACLU, his colleague Ted Kennedy was also placed on the No-Fly list and had trouble getting his name removed.

It would be nice to think they know not what they do.

But since when has a little thing like that stopped them?

MORE: Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) is co-sponsoring the House version of S.1317 -- a "bill preventing people on the government's no-fly list from purchasing guns."

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), a strong gun control advocate, is co-sponsoring the legislation that would apply to the nearly 1 million people that make up the government's no-fly list - people believed to either be terrorist or have strong terrorism connections.

Currently the no-fly list is not a part of the background check for buying guns.

A Zogby International Poll last month found that 69 percent of 3,967 registered American voters only supported a move to prohibit people on the no-fly list from buying a weapon if they have previously been convicted of a crime. On the other hand, 20 percent said anyone on the list should be prohibited.

It's encouraging to see that over two thirds of the voters disagree with these nitwits who want to take away their rights.

MORE: For conservatives this is probably a minor point, but I'm just wondering.... Does Carolyn McCarthy realize that her bill would disarm her colleague Loretta Sanchez?

Or will they be exempting members of Congress?

CORRECTION: When I expressed the fear that "these more than a million Americans" would lose their Second Amendment rights I was probably in error, as the group includes people who are not Americans, and thus do not have Second Amendment rights. As to what the percentages are, I do not know, and the government isn't supplying numbers.

posted by Eric on 08.17.09 at 06:07 PM





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Jeebus... these people are creepy as hell.

And the really sad thing is in the next breath they could easily call Bush a fascist with a straight face.

Watcher   ·  August 18, 2009 12:19 AM

We have Frank Lautenberg AND Robert Menendez. Double Trouble.

Jim - PRS   ·  August 18, 2009 01:59 AM

On August 15, TSA implemented something called a "secure flight program" where you have something called a "redress number" on your ticket so TSA can see if you have protested after being put on the no-fly list. I wonder if those numbers getting issued affects this?

SDN   ·  August 18, 2009 05:38 AM

Wisdom is fostered by the experience of age, unless the octogenarians are in government. If Obamacare is finally ratified, will 'end of life counseling' will be applied to the senile deadheads on he hill?
awl

albert w loescher   ·  August 18, 2009 11:44 AM

Wisdom is fostered by the experience of age, unless the octogenarians are in government. If Obamacare is finally ratified, will 'end of life counseling' be applied to the senile deadheads on the hill?
awl

albert w loescher   ·  August 18, 2009 11:46 AM

How does one find out if they are on the no-fly list?

Donna B.   ·  August 18, 2009 01:34 PM

K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid

Ok let's say (and forbid it ever comes to be.) that all guns in the world are rounded up and conviscated, No one has any. Does that mean that now we are safe from violent crimes? If you go into the Bible, the one brother killed the other by smashing his head with a rock. Now what? Better round up and conviscate all the rocks.

Colton Case   ·  August 18, 2009 03:24 PM

And after they've rounded up all the guns, start next with knives, forks, spoons, bottles, sticks, rocks, bricks, glass, and cut off hands too.
Guns dont kill people, People kill people.
It doesnt matter what the weapon is, it will always be something.
I wonder how many of these people that want guns removed, would in a home invasion situation actually stick to their beliefs, and wish they had a gun?
Common sense people, use it.

Colton Case   ·  August 18, 2009 03:28 PM

If Obamacare is passed, the U.S. will be rid of the aptly named Baby Boom much sooner than I thought.

Brett   ·  August 19, 2009 12:15 AM

Wordpress, Michael Behenna, 27 Aug 09:
I toggled the ‘page down’ button over 230 times from top to bottom in the reply section of this site spanning from March to August regarding Michael Behenna’s plight. I discern we share similar thoughts. Do not quit. Write letters to your representatives/senators until they throw up their hands and will finally listen to the heart of America.

It is accordant to Christ’s second commandment. I am willing to die for truth and for the love of my fellow man. For my vociferous critique of this perverted government, I am labeled as a ‘POI’ and an ‘enemy’ of this evil regime. My days are numbered, but those days are not mine. They are the Lord’s–and so are yours. AWL
By: Albert, August 27, 2009

Wordoress.com, Trish Cleek: This morning, I received a letter describing this travesty of unjustice by this nation and its military courts. Michael’s attorneys seek donations to defend him against the nation he himself had sworn to defend. Each and every morning, my mail box is stuffed with horror stories such as Lt. Behenna’s. I lack the resources to physically support his defense fund. As you, my prayers are for him and many others who are harassed unlawfully. Mine are for him and the many others who are so shabbily treated. It is no wonder that Janet Napolitano fears the soldiers coming home. home.

I stopped donating to secular entities last year when I was inspired by Agabus of Acts 11–thus my email address. At first, it was called the ‘Agabus Agenda’. Now, it is the ‘Agabus Necessity’, for a worldwide famine is near upon us. Then will come the plagues augmented by malnutrition. Shortly later, weakened America will be suborned. Justice will finally arrive. The beast will be consumed by its own fire. We of Christ anticipate His return, but our ‘great saddness’ remains for those who are not under His Grace. I pray Michael and the countless others are bound beneath the umbrella of His love. Paul was frequently unjustly imprisoned. The Lord always provided his escapes until his task was done. Continue to witness with boldness for Christ. Our task is to feed His sheep and gather them into the fold. He will call us Home when when the time is right. Albert of PILMOA*
*Politically Incorrect Like Minds Of Agabus

albert w loescher   ·  August 27, 2009 05:54 PM

Is it possible that Obama's intent is to keep our credible military in foreign lands and keep them AWAY from America so he can complete his dreams of a zombie civilian army, known as 'Americorpse' (sic)? Does any have an an answer to this query?
awl

albert w loescher   ·  August 27, 2009 06:02 PM

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