Yea, and I think that Sarah helped quite a bit herself. But let's not give her any credit, she is now just a nobody and a quitter. Right?

And lets not think we really have won anything. Obama and his backers will get something through both the House and Senate even if it takes them watering it down to almost nothing.

Then they will do like they have done countless times before. They will set down in the back rooms with their advisors and lobbyists and write in what ever Obama and his wealthy backers tell them to and no one will be able to stop them. Then Obama can sign what he and his handlers have directed to be written.

We conservatives haven't liked the choices our government has been making for about the last fifty years and this "Health Care Reform" was just the last straw.

But being the silent ones we just kept working and hoping that our government would somehow see the light and the errors in their ways. And being gullible we kept voting for those that lied and said they were for conservative ways and measures and a smaller government.

Our continuing big mistakes.

The democrats have been planning this takeover and expansion of our Republic for ages and each time they get in power, they along with republicans in name only do more and more damage to our Republic.
Power indeed does corrupt, but it takes a certain kind of people that want to change America into something that our Founders never wanted and warned us about.

Now, because of several new reasons, the American people, or at least over half of them have been shocked out of their inattention and stupidity of inaction.

But being conservatives, do we have the guts and the stamina to push back hard enough, long enough to rid ourselves of these progressive neo-commie socialists and their backers (wherever and whomever they are)?

If our votes can't do it, the only alternative is so terrible, as not to be spoken of until it will be almost too late.

A quote if I may:

The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
2009 Judge Alex Kozinski

Papa Ray
West Texas

As others noted, vigilance is needed most at this time.

The Obama team apparently couldn't buy enough support among the usually-for-sale faction in Congress. Even those hogs flinch at the prospect of losing office.

This time the frog jumped out of the warming pan of water. He still has to elude those who intend to put him back in.

Wordings in the revised bill will be changed w/o notice in committees. Clauses will be added to unrelated bills. As much erosion as possible will be done.

And a face-saving triumph will be proclaimed by the MSM.

And those tactics will probably work. All along I have contended that the Democrats could be steadily passing small parts of their medical agenda. Enormous leaps sometimes fail.

Looks like the Demos listen to nazis and evil-mongers and un-Americans.

No, we have not won yet.

The time to rest is when all of the current set of 435 idiots who currently either wander around the U.S. Capitol voting on things they haven't read, or cowering in abject fear from facing their electorate, are sent home and a new crop of Congresscritters are brought in next year to spoil in the fetid heat of the Washington swamp.

And not a moment sooner.

These people will try their damndest to get their way, in the dark of night, by passing some abomination of an unread, pork-laden, special-interest-feeding bill into law, then they will try to come home and tell us it wasn't their fault.

No sale. No health care bill, period. You had your chance, chumps, and you blew it.

Go home. This nation is better without your kind of "representation." Do not bother us again.

Great to think of the fact that there will be real competition now to deliver quality. Competition is always better than monopoly, as they say.

-- Mark
Infrared sauna

They are snickering down below that white flag....just trying to draw us in.
DO NOT TRUST THESE MORONS.
Keep your guard up and keep charging HARD.

BTW, here is what Obama had to say about this.

Be careful Dave. This smacks of the typical progressive bait-and-switch. The only acceptable bill is no bill at all.

M

Not so fast....lower that white flagged mast.
Do not trust a word out of Obamas mouth.
If its moving he's lying

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Politics with Marc Ambinder

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Aug 16 2009, 9:11 pm by Marc Ambinder
Administration Official: "Sebelius Misspoke."
An administration official said tonight that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius "misspoke" when she told CNN this morning that a government run health insurance option "is not an essential part" of reform. This official asked not to be identified in exchange for providing clarity about the intentions of the President. The official said that the White House did not intend to change its messaging and that Sebelius simply meant to echo the president, who has acknowledged that the public option is a tough sell in the Senate and is, at the same time, a must-pass for House Democrats, and is not, in the president's view, the most important element of the reform package.

A second official, Linda Douglass, director of health reform communications for the administration, said that President Obama believed that a public option was the best way to reduce costs and promote competition among insurance companies, that he had not backed away from that belief, and that he still wanted to see a public option in the final bill.

"Nothing has changed.," she said. "The President has always said that what is essential that health insurance reform lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition in the health insurance market. He believes that the public option is the best way to achieve these goals."

A third White House official, via e-mail, said that Sebelius didn't misspeak. "The media misplayed it," the third official said.

Appearing on Face the Nation, press secretary Robert Gibbs said that fostering competition and choice were non-negotiable, but the specific mechanism designed to do so was up for discussion. That's been interpreted as a signal that the White House is getting behind the idea of adding publicly owned health cooperatives to the menu of choices that consumers without insurance will recieve. Still, this isn't exactly a walk-back -- the White House, Gibbs included, have mused favorably about the co-ops before.

On Saturday, Mr. Obama defended the public plan before an audience in Colorado Springs. At the same time, he said that the government option was not the single critical element of reform, pointing instead to the provisions preventing insurance companies from discriminating against people, requiring them to offer plans to everyone, and capping premium increases.

"The public option, whether we have it or we don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform. This is just one sliver of it. One aspect of it," Obama said.
This has been a refrain the White House has used for weeks, but not until Saturday did Mr. Obama voice it so explicitly.
The perception that the White House had backed away from the public plan has roiled many prominent Democrats, who took to their blogs, and to Twitter, to protest.

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Got to agree with Alger. They may have overreached a bit with the full take over, but they'll settle on something before it's over.

These jokers just need to get something passed - anything really, so they can add to it later. It changes the debate to have some law on the books. With a law it will no longer be whether the government should be responsible for healthcare, but rather how to fix the obligations they have (oh and by the way the Republicans are going to take your healthcare away!)

As a caller on the Boortz show said, congress is only trying to buy a Christmas tree - they'll worry about the ornaments later.