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October 22, 2008
McCain 37, Obama 24
Have you heard that McCain voted with Bush 90%-95% of the time? I've heard it so many times my eardrums are ready to burst. Of all the talking points in the Obama campaign, I think it is probably Point Number One. I hadn't really given much thought to looking into the details, although it did occur to me that some of the votes had to have been of an either bipartisan or non-controversial nature, or on matters arrived at after compromise which represented some sort of consensus. But it never occurred to me that the figure itself was wrong, and I figured the McCain people would jump all over them if it was. So I was genuinely surprised by the title of this post by Jim Geraghty -- In 2007, McCain Voted With Bush More Than Obama... By an Entire 13.45 Percent Geraghty looked at the percentage of times the two were in attendance, and found that because "McCain was only in attendance for 39 percent of them," "he actually voted the president's way 37 percent of the time." Amazingly, Barack Obama voted with the president 40% of the time, but because of his 59% attendance record, his total vote percentage with the President is cut down to 23.6%. 37 versus 23.6 Concludes Geraghty, last year, the difference between the two men in terms of how they actually stood in the Senate and voted was all of 13.45 percent.So I thought I'd rework Obama's statement: In the debate this week, my opponent felt the need to inform me that he's not President Bush. And in fairness, I don't blame Senator McCain for all of President Bush's mistakes. After all, he's only voted with George Bush 37 percent of the time.Very persuasive. The voters would be scratching their heads all the way to the polls. (Yes, the number in the title is rounded off. Obama's actual number is 23.6. Rounding off numbers is a scorekeeper's sacrosanct prerogative!) posted by Eric on 10.22.08 at 07:30 PM
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Given that George Bush does not introduce or vote on legislation, I have to wonder what Obama even means. I assume he means something like 90% of the bills McCain voted for were eventually signed into law by Bush. Whatever it was, it was always obvious that most of the bills were non-political bipartisan bills ("Wednesday is Key Lime pie day!") and Obama probably "voted with Bush" 85% of the time too. This is another of Obama's shameless tag lines and I mostly blame McCain for never calling him on it--even in the debates when Obama said it to his face he failed to respond, essentially agreeing that it's true AND that it's meaningful. tim maguire · October 23, 2008 11:07 AM "Wednesday is Key Lime pie day!" Damn! Key Lime pie is my favorite. Why tell me that on a Thursday? Eric Scheie · October 23, 2008 11:49 AM Ehh. This thing about Obama voting with GW Bush only 13 percent less than McCain doesn't do a thing for me. You are in effect arguing: Obama is a left wing socialist extremist who votes with Bush just about as much as McCain does! Color me unpersuaded. (And the use of the word "color" above is not a code word for anything. Seriously. It's not. Please believe me.) Rhodium Heart · October 23, 2008 05:20 PM You are in effect arguing: Obama is a left wing socialist extremist who votes with Bush just about as much as McCain does! Not really. I am arguing that Obama's attempt to tar McCain for voting with Bush is disingenuous. Eric Scheie · October 23, 2008 05:25 PM Potato. Po-TAH-to. Rhodium Heart · October 24, 2008 07:59 PM Post a comment
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Excellent, if the math is right. Course some of us never minded that McCain voted with George Bush in the first place. He's MY kind of terrorist.
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