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August 26, 2007
Who "raised" whose narrative?
The Vietnam narrative wars (which I touched on yesterday) continue. It's even harder to understand why Bush raised a comparison between Iraq and Vietnam.So argues Trudy Rubin, in today's Philadelphia Inquirer. I'm not sure it's the comparison she doesn't understand, nor is it the raising of the comparison. I think what she really objects to is not the comparison itself, but the fact that it was raised by Bush, and the fact that it does not agree with hers. In April of 2004, Trudy Rubin warned (in a column titled "U.S. still can steer clear of Iraq quagmire") that: Iraq is not Vietnam.But she warns that Iraqis are "making comparisons with the legendary U.S. Embassy in Saigon," and that if an occupation occurs, "Americans will indeed drift into an Iraqi quagmire," and that the "parallels [to Vietnam] will be painful."
"Iraq is not Vietnam; it could be an even bigger disaster." In a column titled "Iraq vs. Vietnam," she also said that "the complex Iraqi situation makes the Vietnam war look simple." Repeatedly, she invoked Vietnam not as a simple comparison, but by way of contrast to the Iraq War, which shares in common with Vietnam the fact that it's a quagmire. Except, in another respect, Iraq is worse: Iraq is more complicated quagmire than Vietnam.The above is by no means intended to be a comprehensive collection of every "Vietnam" or "quagmire" reference by Trudy Rubin, nor is it my purpose to debate each one of the columns. However, I do think it's fair to say that Trudy Rubin "raised a comparison between Iraq and Vietnam" -- and did so repeatedly. But today, she pretends shock over the fact that Bush dared to touch the "V" word. Especially when he really should have used the "Q" word! It's even harder to understand why Bush raised a comparison between Iraq and Vietnam. Needless to say, he never used the word quagmire. His point was that our withdrawal from Vietnam caused immense suffering for the Vietnamese people, as would a withdrawal from Iraq. That's true. I've argued that one reason to stay longer in Iraq is our moral obligation to the Iraqi people.Could have won? Does anyone remember the 1973 Paris Peace Accords? Hardly a document of surrender, it stated that the war was over, and that "All acts of force on the ground, in the air, and on the sea shall be prohibited." The United States withdrew its military forces, and Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho were awarded Nobel Peace Prizes. Subsequently, North Vietnam became convinced the U.S. would do nothing to support the South Vietnamese government, and the former launched a series of probing expeditions to test the waters. Sure enough, no response. Hanoi's leaders watched closely and anxiously as strikes by American B-52 Stratofortress bombers failed to materialize.South Vietnam's President Thieu assumed that because the treaty had been violated, the U.S. would live up to the promises made by President Nixon. In retrospect, this was delusional. Help to South Vietnam was impossible, because Nixon was outflanked politically by Watergate. And of course Congress: Thieu still believed the promise made by President Richard Nixon to reintroduce American air power to the conflict if any serious violations of the agreement took place. It was also assumed that U.S. financial and military aid would continue to be forthcoming at previous levels.Without getting into the details of the domestic political situation in the U.S. at the time (a touchy "narrative" if ever there was one!) I think most fair minded historians would have to conclude that the failure of the U.S. to enforce the treaty provisions was a political, and not military failure. The U.S. fought and bombed the North Vietnam into signing it, and there was a strong faction in the North Vietnamese government which considered rebuilding more of a priority than invading the South, and thus, the tentative nature of the initial invasion. What I cannot understand for the life of me is the notion that the U.S. military was "beaten" and could not have engaged in what would have been a relatively simple show of force. Nevertheless, the idea that U.S. military was defeated in Vietnam is a very persistent myth, if not the dominant narrative. Back to Trudy Rubin: But it [the "we could have won the Vietnam War had we stayed longer" meme imparted to Bush] is impossible to prove and highly dubious. And it goes to the heart of Bush's problem: He has yet to give a coherent argument for how we can stabilize Iraq by staying on.Notice that Bush did not say that "we could have won the Vietnam War had we stayed longer." By saying that he "seemed to imply" it (and that it is popular with his "conservative base"), she does all of the following: This makes my job triply difficult. Because it's tough for me to have to defend words which Bush never said, which I never said, and on top of that I don't consider myself a part of Bush's "base." Plus "we could have won the Vietnam War had we stayed longer" in my view misstates what happened, as it implies the withdrawal following the Paris Peace Accords was a "loss" of the Vietnam War. The loss came later, by act of Congress. Who owns that narrative? posted by Eric on 08.26.07 at 11:42 AM
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gads, I've wanted to go bang my head against the wall ever since GW's speech and reading all the reports of a speech he never made (accompanied, of course, by the usual "how dare he!" responses) The Vietnam cite was both a small part of the speech and narrowly defined AND put into context with Korea and Japan. Indeed, GW talked a great deal about Korea and the difference a committed (and, at the time, vilified) Pres. Truman made that has S. Korea today as a successful democracy and ally. Darleen · August 26, 2007 02:05 PM Vietnam War critics say what you will... I can post comments on this blog while sitting in an air-conditioned room in the heart of a free society because the American 'meddlers' gave their blood to save us from Communist enslavement. http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/what-did-the-vietnam-war-ever-accomplish/ Scott · August 27, 2007 12:20 AM Trudy Rubin is farking stupid, and has been for years. I dunno how she manages to keep her job since Eric here or pretty much anybody commenting on this blog can write better. Eric Blair · August 27, 2007 10:17 PM Post a comment
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