Overthrow Competition

Some folks are complaining about the Soros Plan to overthrow the US Government.

The country has already been overthrown:

"The Latin American drug cartels have stretched their tentacles much deeper into our lives than most people believe. It's possible they are calling the shots at all levels of government." - William Colby, former CIA Director, 1995
Soros is just in competition with the current owners.

Cross Posted at Power and Control

posted by Simon on 11.13.10 at 04:10 PM


I really and truly hope that your intention for this post was some kind of snarky swipe at conspiracy theorists... and not something else.

Ryan Waxx   ·  November 13, 2010 5:56 PM

No. I really think that Soros is in competition with the Drug Cartels for ownership of the US.

I have been asking myself why Soros supports legalization for years. What is in it for him? What I wrote is the only thing that makes sense.

If you have a better idea (Soros/legalization)I'm all ears.

M. Simon   ·  November 13, 2010 6:23 PM

The problem with this theory is that it assumes that if Soros supported something that happened, he therefore was behind it. No way. The Orange Revolution was supported by a lot of people (including most of the blogosphere) and Soros was inconsequential at best.

Eric Scheie   ·  November 13, 2010 7:00 PM


You are entirely correct about the Orange revolution. But I only lightly scanned the article.

The value for me was it set off a train of thought.

I do believe Soros is against the cartels not out of some innate humanity but because they are competition.

I could be wrong. But to change my mind I'd have to see a better theory.

M. Simon   ·  November 13, 2010 8:55 PM

I have been asking myself why Soros supports legalization for years. What is in it for him?

Comments like this are why if Occam's Razor wasn't already there, we'd have to invent one.

He supports legalization because it's a classic limousine liberal position, and all his dinner party guests think the same way, ergo the entire country feels that way except the misguided segment brainwashed by Fox News and it's fascist allies.

Ryan Waxx   ·  November 13, 2010 9:21 PM


Soros never supports something unless there is something in it for him.

And if the limo liberals support legalization how do you explain Babs Boxer and Pelousi being against? Does not compute. How do you explain Obama against? Does not compute.

Who on the left supported Prop 19? SEIU. Limo liberals? Hardly. I'd have to go back and look but there was another major CA union for legalization.

I think you need a better theory. Occam is fine. Until you run up against counter evidence.

M. Simon   ·  November 13, 2010 10:10 PM

But I offer counter evidence to my theory:


For example, several liberal billionaires have embraced the cause of drug legalization, which would probably cause enormous problems in middle America but would have less affect inside large fence-lined compounds.

Rather rich coming from a magazine whose founder was against the War On Drugs.

So what can we say? People are all over the place on the subject.

What is in it for Soros?

And of course the heart of the matter: is America a narco democracy? Was Colby right?

One indication: a lack of a border fence. Another recently passed bit of legislation for National Nature Preserve areas (Park Police) on the border.

We no longer go after drug gangs with the intensity we did in the 1980s. How can you tell? Look at the decline in the murder rate. Turf wars after big busts always results in a spike in murders. At least that is what the FBI told my town around '87 after a big bust that took down a whole gang. They haven't done that here since. And it isn't because we don't have drugs, gangs, or a DEA office (Our Cong. Critter brought one to town after the big bust. It has been relatively dormant. Lots of Street Murders make people upset.)

So yeah. The narcos control. And they will continue to control. The Mexican example is too fresh. That sort of thing is bad for business. Not just the drug business.

M. Simon   ·  November 13, 2010 10:53 PM

Sory, I wasn't expecting you to use such a counterintuitive method as to actually claim that George Soros's demographic wasn't one of the major drivers of prop 19 in the first place.

I mean really, look at your own argument. Although you could argue that the SEIU, while affluent compared to the schmucks who pay their salaries, isn't in the limo set; their leaders who decide what the SEIU supports in the first place certainly are in that category.

And yes, three specific liberal politicians aren't willing to buck their party platform to take a high-risk low-reward stand. I'm shocked, shocked to learn that the same Obama who supported DADT until he was elected and still hasn't come out of the closet on gay marriage hasn't started toking on Air Force One. Really.

But no, I don't have a poll up my sleeve that breaks down the supporters of the Prop by income.

Ryan Waxx   ·  November 13, 2010 11:00 PM


The founder of National Review was against the Drug War. Milton Friedman called it a moral abomination.

Hardly liberals.

Oh. Yeah. Did I mention Ron Paul?

And you still haven't addressed: is the USA a narco democracy?

M. Simon   ·  November 14, 2010 12:28 AM

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