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February 11, 2010
The IPCC Is Underwater
It appears that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has some seriously wrong figures for the Netherlands. A United Nations report wrongly claimed that more than half of the Netherlands is currently below sea level.I have reports like this backed up in a queue five or ten reports long. The revelations are coming up so fast I can't keep up. Take this latest bit of news. Editor of Nature forced to resign from climate review panelYou believed the media? You fool. If you haven't caught on to the Failing Media game by now you deserve what you are getting. And that goes double for ANY pronouncements by the United Nations. Cross Posted at Power and Control posted by Simon on 02.11.10 at 05:57 PM
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Follow Up Since I asked you to, I went and found a story on Mission Beach flooding. The story is about Pumping Station N and the recent troubles she's had with all our rain. With the previous rise of 5' the coming 3' rise means a situation that is going to get a lot worse. By the year 2101 we may well be forced to abandon much of our beachfront communities and the Mission Bay Park area. Now, extend that rise in sea level around the world Alan Kellogg · February 13, 2010 09:28 PM As to the Dutch. Their Environmental Minister seems to think the report is in error. You might want to take your complaints up with her. I do see your point though. The highest IPCC estimate for sea level rise in 100 years is about 3 ft. The IPCC nominal is about 18 inches. The IPCC low is 4 1/2 inches (IIRC) The rate observed so far (for 100 years) is 2.2 mm per year. About 8 1/2 inches per century. And the rate has been running below the trend line for the last few years. http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/07/22/sea-level-rise-an-update-shows-a-slowdown/ I do agree with you on one point. A modest sea level rise coupled with lots of rain in a short time could mean trouble for coastal cities. Why if it rained for 40 days and 40 nights coastal cities could very well be flooded out. I think a boat production project with enough capacity for a billion people is in order. Petition your Congress Critter. M. Simon · February 13, 2010 10:16 PM Couldn't find anything on Mission Beach flooding at the first link you provided. The second link says that the problem with the pumping stations is not too much water. It is bad design. I do agree with you on one point. A modest sea level rise coupled with lots of rain in a short time could mean trouble for coastal cities. Why if it rained for 40 days and 40 nights coastal cities could very well be flooded out. New Paper in Science: Sea level 81,000 years ago was 1 meter higher while CO2 was lower. We will need to pump up the CO2 to keep sea levels down. Unless the correlation is spurious. When in which case it may not matter a bit what we do as we transition from fossil fuels. M. Simon · February 13, 2010 10:31 PM Here is a comment I liked from the second link: What did these people expect when they moved into a low-lying, flood-prone area like Mission Beach?? That they wouldn't ever have to deal with the nuisance of floods because it hardly ever rains in San Diego?? Tough that the streets, homes and businesses are underwater temporarily, they should have known and expected such conditions. Ever heard of buyer beware?? This ain't recent history. Don't expect to get more taxes out of me; get it from those in that live in the immediate area. Mother Nature always wins out in the long-run. M. Simon · February 13, 2010 10:35 PM BTW I missed the 5 ft. rise. Is that counting from the time a mile thick glacier covered Chicago? I blame global warming. M. Simon · February 13, 2010 11:53 PM Post a comment
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The fact only 20% of the Netherlands was reclaimed from the sea does not mean more could not now be below sea level thanks to rising sea level.
BTW, search for "Mission Beach flooding" at the Union Tribune" web site. lots of stories about Mission Beach flooding over the years, especially where MB lies below sea level.