Another victory for the alpha males?

Earlier today, four male Saudi Arabian passengers disrupted a flight from Seattle to Detroit, terrifying the passengers and causing the plane to be stopped short of the gate after it landed, upon which they were taken off without any charges filed: - Sources tell Fox 2 that a flight from Amsterdam into Detroit Metropolitan Airport was held on the tarmac after landing because of unruly behavior by some of the passengers.

((Watch the video to get passenger reaction from Fox 2's Simon Shaykhet.))

The source says four men from Saudi Arabai were saying something in Arabic that alarmed four on-board Federal Air Marshals. The Marshals speak Arabic. A decision was made to stop the plane on the tarmac away from the passenger terminal and remove the men from the plane.

Once the men were removed, the rest of passengers were then taken to the terminal for deboarding.

The Transportation Security Administration says the unruly passengers were interviewed by Customs and Border Protection officials.

But the TSA says the passengers were released and no arrests were made.

Delta Air Lines spokeswoman Susan Elliott says the crew of Northwest Flight 243 requested that authorities meet the plane Tuesday after it landed because four passengers didn't follow their instructions. She says nobody was injured but wouldn't describe what the passengers were doing.

From the video it seems they were saying deliberately provocative things in Arabic. Either they're terrorists engaged in probing the system, or they're just thumbing their noses.

My question is simple. Why in the hell are these malevolent Saudis allowed to fly on planes? Not only have most of the hijackers been Saudis, but the Wahabbist religion to which most of them adhere is diametrically opposed to everything about the West, especially the United States. I have no problem with "good Saudis" being allowed to come here and travel (and I am sure there are good Saudis) but I don't think anyone in our government is doing the necessary ideological screening. Why not?

Not to be unduly paranoid, but as I said earlier,

I'm wondering whether the terrorists who want to kill Americans are regarded as the Alphas, by the social experimenters who regard the rest of us as Betas.
Look, I'm not into being a macho male or any of that stuff, but it just bothers me to think that these guys are seeing us as total wimps. And laughing.

Um, would anyone care to lay odds on whether these Saudi probers will be allowed to fly again?

posted by Eric on 01.12.10 at 07:11 PM


My first thought is that they're trying to make it so that people won't want to report weird activity because then their flight will get diverted/cancelled/whatever and the inconvenience for the sake of nothing will annoy people.

So people will just turn the other way and let it happen, because it's annoying to say something only to have the guys walk away unscathed, but you miss your flight.

silvermine   ·  January 12, 2010 8:28 PM

They'll fly again - we'd (apparently) rather die than offend anyone.

Chuck   ·  January 12, 2010 11:01 PM

better dead than rude.

Eric   ·  January 12, 2010 11:42 PM

Perhaps the security executives should be forced to travel on these flights, economy class, no frills, no perks, on a regular basis. They seem to have no clue what they are dealing with.

hugh   ·  January 13, 2010 7:51 AM

Remember that early bin Laden video, the 'strong horse and weak horse' bit? They see us as the weak horse; people are so afraid of being screwed over by the government for being 'racist' or 'bigoted' or 'anti-islamic' if they do anything; that makes us weak, and gives them courage: "See, the infidels fear us and themselves so much they won't act, even when in fear for their lives!"

And yeah, they'll probably fly again; who's gonna stop them?

Firehand   ·  January 13, 2010 9:46 AM

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