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September 29, 2009
Discrimination against religion leads to discrimination in favor of religion?
Is there a conflict between freedom of speech and freedom of religion? I don't think there is, but I think the courts may have screwed things up to the point where people are forgetting something about the nature of free speech. A recent example involves a group of high school cheerleaders in Florida who were banned from displaying signs with Bible verses: Community members are rallying around Lakeview-Fort Oglethorpe High School cheerleaders after they were banned from displaying signs with Bible verses urging fans and players to "commit to the Lord" and "take courage and do it."Is it a violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution for signs with Bible verses to be displayed on the football field? I realize the courts have said it is, but should it be? It has long seemed clear to me that religious speech is free speech, and ought not to be treated any differently from any other form of free speech. Here's the sign that appeared in the article: Whether you like the sign or not, why isn't it free speech? As the town's mayor says, no one has to go to the football stadium, and no one has to read the signs: Fort Oglethorpe Mayor Ronnie Cobb vehemently disagrees with the ban and said he'll call on the City Council to support the cheerleaders and their signs.The ban on religious speech at schools and other government property stems from a belief that what the state allows, it endorses. But suppose the cheerleaders held up a banner saying "STOP THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN!" or "SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA!" Would anyone argue that the school was endorsing that message? Or implicitly encouraging the students to endorse it? Let's suppose we change the sign around slightly. Would people be offended if the cheerleaders held up this sign? Hmmm..... I'm thinking they might. I'm thinking that the same people who want religious signs displayed would be against the display of religious signs with a political message, or outright political signs. But why? If there's free speech, then there's free speech, right? I'm for free speech, and I'd like all speech to be treated equally. What am I missing? Might the ban on religious speech have unwittingly led to religious speech being poised to occupy a special category above and beyond that of ordinary free speech? Is that it? Do the cheerleaders and their supporters want special treatment that would not obtain for other forms of free speech? Should they get it? If so, under what First Amendment theory? I realize that religious speech has been denied the same protection offered to other forms of speech, and I think that is wrong. But two wrongs don't make a right. And just as I am against affirmative action to remedy past racial discrimination, I am against offering special protection for religious speech by way of compensation for past wrongs. MORE: From an AFA PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (October 1, 2009)AFA urges Georgia school district to protect student expression on football banners Does that mean the AFA agrees with the First Amendment? posted by Eric on 09.29.09 at 10:08 PM
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If you wish your kids to be able to freely quote the Bible (or religious verses), then would suggest that you send your kids to a private school. Any sort of religious expressions are forbidden in most public schools. Any school that tries to circumvent it (as in this situation) becomes a target because there is ALWAYS someone who will want their 15 min of fame. Charlotte · September 30, 2009 09:22 AM Is it whether it's a school activity, or is it whether the cheerleaders are representatives of the school? Are they speaking for the school or just themselves. These aren't teacher or school officials, they are students. Shouldn't that matter even if it's a school event? If just themselves, why not let them hold up whatever sign they want? Or are they actually acting as representatives of the school, not as individuals cheering? Things like this to me are tough calls, since how does this not violate the students' rights to peaceful assembly and freedom of speech and of religion? plutosdad · September 30, 2009 10:40 AM How about a sign with an Islamic verse? Would the crowd support free speech and religious expression then? Christian · September 30, 2009 11:45 AM It seems perfectly straightforward and moderate to me. Cheerleaders may use religious speech (or banners, or other expression) on their own, but not when representing the school. That children are acting like spoiled children is unremarkable. roy · September 30, 2009 04:06 PM Post a comment
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The question hinges on "is cheerleading a school supported activity". If so no signs.
Now if folks in the stands want to hold up such signs or parade them in front of the grandstand - no problem.
I hated religious indoctrination in school when I was a kid.