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March 21, 2008

Closing The Deal

When it comes to customer satisfaction the rule of thumb is that every satisfied customer will influence five others and every dissatisfied customer will influence ten. You had better keep your customers happy.

So how has Mr. Happy, the glorious Barry O, been doing with his customers? Not well. Not well at all.

I'm going to quote a few comments from the above link. They contain a world of information about Democrat customer satisfaction.

Bill Richardson could not get any votes for himself what good is he going to do for Obama. Mr. Obama needs to face it, His 20 year relationship with his mentor/Rev.Wright is hurting the democratic party in the worst way. How could he expect people to vote for him after he sat in that church for 20 years. He didn't walk away from that hate. I think his and his wifes true feeling show from time to time "First time in my adult life time I am proud of my country" "typical white person".

Posted by: 30 yrdem | Mar 21, 2008 1:53:28 PM

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I will work with other Clinton supporters towards a write-in movement. I WILL NOT vote for Obama or Mccain, but I will vote. I think the buyers-remorse is starting to set in, and by the time November rolls around the democrats will have squandered away the general election by nominating someone that has not been properly vetted and has no experience. Aside from this major blunder, they have also looked incredibly incompetent during this primary by not fixing the MI &FL votes, using super-delegates, not having a winner-take all in primary states, and having no strong leadership to make anything happen. I will never be a republican, but I think I have to remove myself from the Democratic Party as well.

PS. I thought 4 years ago America had made one of their biggest mistakes by reelecting Bush, but now after having 8 years of an incompetent president, Americans, with the help of the media, have pushed through a candidate that they are taking a big chance on vs. one that has proven time and again to get things done and work diligently for the people. I don't believe that Obama will win the general election, so essentially Americans are asking for 4 more years of the republican party controlling our country.

Posted by: Andrea | Mar 21, 2008 10:52:12 AM

Buyers remorse. Yep. Plus we have the desperation setting in syndrome.

SEE! This is THE problem. Black people think that just because all White people aren't voting for Obama, they're racists! NOTHING could be further from the truth! This "typical white person" worked for Obama's Illinois Senate campaign. I donated money to his Senate campaign. I attended Illinois Obama rallies AND I voted for the man in his Senate bid.

I am NOT voting for Mr. Hope because he used the race card against Hillary and Bill Clinton in NH and SC and they have always worked to help the AA community! Now you have the NERVE to call ME and the Clintons and anyone else who doesn't vote for Mr. Hope, RACISTS just because we don't like him? This "typical white person" doesn't like him because he's a typical slimy politician who's as tainted as they come.

Posted by: Vickie | Mar 21, 2008 2:06:11 PM

Well, I voted for Obama too, in '04. I can't abide theocons. I called it the communist vs. theocon race. I voted for the communist. Probably a Rovian plot on my part.

John McCain has been in the senate for years. He's been called a "maverick" by the liberal press. They have praised him to the hilt for years. Nothing can be "exposed" that will be of any concern.

However, more to come on Obama. It will just drip, drip, drip out till the election. If you think people want to see Obama's church people at the Inaugural, you're insane. Obama is toast in the general. TOAST!

Posted by: Jo | Mar 21, 2008 12:04:46 PM

And what about Obama's church people? Well that is a story in itself.

It seems Mr. Popularity's minister has some strange ideas. For an American.

JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

Obama's Pastor is turning out to be a real gem. A gift that keeps on giving.

I'm Jewish and have my ear to the ground in that community. Obama has already lost a major portion of the Jewish vote. A friend called me the other day to cry about what Obama has done to the country. Another friend told me that some Jews in liberal circles are coming out openly in favor of McCain. This is something that never happened in '04 re: liberal Jews (read Reform Congregations). Back then if you were going to defect you had to keep quiet to preserve your social standing.

This has not just cost Obama. Hillary's numbers are falling too.

Obama has ruined the brand. It will be interesting to see if the Democrats can survive as a party let alone this election.

H/T Instapundit

Cross Posted at Power and Control

posted by Simon on 03.21.08 at 05:27 PM

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It will be interesting to see what transpires in Denver/Chicago. Not all the campers will be happy ones. Perhaps Lincoln’s adage about fooling the people can be applied to Obama, but with a twist: You can’t please all the people all of the time. Obama tries harder than most to bring this about.

Let us all sing an old Yippie Revival Hymn ( I went hiking in the Sierras during the Chicago convention, so I guess I was an apolitical Hippie.), courtesy of Crosby Stills, Nash and Young. Substitute in Denver for Chicago.

We can CHANGE / yes we can CHANGE the World.
Rearrange / rearrange the World.
It's dying / do you believe in justice?
It's dying / and if you believe in freedom.
It's dying / Let a man live his own life.
It's dying / Rules and regulations who needs them?
Open up the door.

Somehow people must be free,
I hope the day comes soon.
Won't you please come to Chicago,
To show your face.
From the bottom of the ocean
To the mountains of the Moon.
Won't you please come to Chicago
No one else can take your place. Let the fun begin. While one cannot equate today with 36 or 40 years ago, there are interesting parallels. CHANGE or Chutzpah, or one. As for myself, rate of change = dy/dx. I want to CHANGE the world: I want to turn Obama into an unsuccessful candidate. That’s the CHANGE I want.

Gringo · March 21, 2008 06:25 PM

One thing that I found interesting in Gov. Richardson's speech backing Sen. Obama's Presidential run is this...

"Your candidacy is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our nation and you are a once-in-a-lifetime leader," - Gov. Richardson

Does he know something that the average mortal doesn't?

John · March 21, 2008 06:50 PM

Interesting election coming.

The demos will have a candidate that 1/2 of their base can't stand

The repubs will have a candidate that their base can't stand

Mark E · March 21, 2008 09:12 PM

I've been saying for a bit, now that the two parties are splintering and badly: they are both driving out core factions so as to 'win' the remainder in their party. This has been the ongoing goal in US politics since at least the 1960's - drive out the unwanted or those that do not adhere to a party line, and then turn them off so much that they will not even vote.

Those that are left are no longer representative of the Nation as a whole and are badly skewed towards small factions that were once part of larger parties. The reason the D party started losing in the 1970's and 80's is not from the coherence of the R party (although that did help) but the fact they drove so many away from their own party that their proportion of the remaining voters shifted against them. Then the R party decided that Incumbistan and not doing things to uphold their party factions was a great idea.

America will have its first sub-50% turnout for a Presidential race, most likely since the Civil War. If the strength of democracy is in the proportion of the actual population standing behind the system, then those who always and adoringly pointed to the strength of the US system vice that of Germany 1932-33 have a bit of a shock: the NSDAP is more representative than our remaining 'majorities' in voting.

What happens when a small minority starts to tell the majority what to do?

We have been feeling that slowly coming on for years.

This is the election that just may push that over the edge when the majority no longer vote. Then it is not democracy any more, which requires majority participation to have any claim to legitimacy.

ajacksonian · March 21, 2008 09:52 PM

Simon, Simon, Simon....geez! Relax bro!

You were absolutely right the other night with your take on Democrats and their identity politics. Now HUSH about this Wright thing, before I see you as Wrong spirited.

Political parties are no different than corporations in the end, and presidential candidates no different than the CEO's of said corporations. Competition keeps us all keen, but winning at any cost demeans us all.

ajack, I just want to say to you that I have always appreciated non-voters for leaving it up to those of us who do. I am amused though, at your new "spin" on not voting. Keep tweaking this one, ajack, it might have some motor next go around.

My nan once told me that wise folks know when to back off and let the wreck happen. Course nan always assumed the train was going slow, and no one would give blood...well other than to the Red Cross on Wednesday.

Simon? This calls for a sweet tune. Helps to get our minds off this mess.

Penny · March 22, 2008 12:14 AM

Seems like you're making a wager, M. Simon.

Will you promise to stop blogging if a Dem wins the White House?

alphie · March 22, 2008 02:39 AM

The possibility of the first major resculpting of the American political landscape since 1912 is growing larger as we watch. If it should come to pass, lovers of freedom had better be ready to seize the opportunity.

Francis W. Porretto · March 22, 2008 04:52 AM

Alphie,

My preferred bet would be I stop blogging politics vs. you stop coming around.

However, I would miss your amusement value so I'm not going to take the bet.

You come back often. Ya hear.

Penny - I detest racism no matter where it comes from. However, the deal for me about Wright is not so much his racism, bad as it is. Wright is a marker for the Big O's politics. Marxism all the way.

I do have a question. Why should the spiritual mentor of a Presidential candidate be off limits? Doesn't that give insight into the candidate?

And let me go further. Why didn't the great healer heal the minister he was so close to?

More. Wright knew he was a problem for O! over a year ago. He said O! was going to have to disassociate himself from the minister and Wright was fine with that. Why didn't O! leave the church a year ago before it became a problem? This speaks to a lack of executive ability. Making hard choices.

Francis - thanks for the link. I'll have a look. I'm probably in agreement given what you have said here. I thought the break up was going to be over economics. Identity politics as a fracture point never entered my mind.

That said - I think we will wind up with a libertarian oriented party and a religious party. However, it is early days yet and the final outcome will be path dependent.

AJ,

A lot of the disinterest in politics come from the fact that the current parties are not coherent. The ships have become encrusted with barnacles. A scraping of the bottoms as Johnson did will not cut it this time.

M. Simon · March 22, 2008 06:07 AM

Penny,

I note that Obama has condemned his church's endorsement of Hamas.

I'm just a little ahead of O!

So even if you don't think it is important O! does.

As I said. O! could have eliminated his church as a problem (except for a fringe) by leaving before the election. He could have stanched the bleeding by condemning a few of his pastor's specific remarks. Instead he lashed himself to a boat anchor.

I used to think Fool for Life (thanks JOM) Kerry was the worst candidate ever. Obama tops him. For the same reason - he can't see himself the way others do.

M. Simon · March 22, 2008 06:52 AM

WND fails to point out that the Marzook/Hamas was a reprint of Marzook's op-ed from the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-marzook10jul10,0,1675308.story

I would like to know whether the church agreed with it (I suspect they did), because there are two steps involved in imputing Obama's agreement with the church. (I say this only because if the same editorial had appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer, few would have considered it the opinion of the Inquirer -- much less its readers.)

Marzook, btw, has been called the "grandfather of CAIR" -- as he lived for years in the US and started CAIR's parent group the IAP:

http://www.americansagainsthate.org/cw/marzook_cw.php

I'd like to know what Wright, TUCC, and Obama think of CAIR.

And what about Wright being invited to the Clinton White House? Didn't something that lend bigtime legitimacy to him and his church?

Eric Scheie · March 22, 2008 10:15 AM

Correction to that last comment. WND did note the LA Times source:

The Hamas article was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

(My apologies to Aaron Klein, who is a conscientious reporter.)

Eric Scheie · March 22, 2008 10:35 AM

A parade of weak minds stumbling over the correct answer by total accident...

M. Murcek · March 22, 2008 12:46 PM

Waaaay back in the '00 election, wasn't the big deal in the media that GWB answered the "who is your most influential philosopher" as Jesus Christ? Wasn't that a huge scandal? Shouldn't we examine the guy who is Obama's chief philosophical influence?

Phelps · March 22, 2008 10:00 PM

"Obama has ruined the brand."
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The brand was compromised by substituting PC-coated Marxism for classical liberalism.

Now all that's left in the D party are competing theaters of grievance and entitlement.

Ben-David · March 23, 2008 06:53 AM