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January 31, 2007
Global Cooling
I was reading the Netscape Blog today and came across an interesting post on the politicization of climate science. They report: More than 120 scientists across seven federal agencies say they have been pressured to remove references to "climate change" and "global warming" from a range of documents, including press releases and communications with Congress.As usual there is a Usenet type discussion going on. Flame wars (not too bad - Netscape is somewhat moderated). And just people with out a clue. Fun to visit. On the odd occasion. So out of that discussion I pulled a couple of interesting urls. The first is from Russia ST. PETERSBURG, August 25 (RIA Novosti)- Global cooling could develop on Earth in 50 years and have serious consequences before it is replaced by a period of warming in the early 22nd century, a Russian scientist said Friday.I first did a piece on increased solar output in November of 2004. In that piece I suggested that the global warming we have been experiencing is mainly due to increased solar output. Since then further reports have come out adding more weight to the evidence. Here is a report with links showing the connection between solar activity and climate for the last 1,000 years. During the Medieval maximum of 1000-1300 there was an extremely large Sunspot which is believed to have warmed the Earth higher than normal. There were no accurate measurements of the weather to call upon during this time but the discovery and colonization of Greenland by Eric the Red supports this hypothesis. Eric was exiled from Iceland for manslaughter and sailed west discovering Greenland. He then led many ships, filled with people who wanted to make a fresh start, to this new land. For 300 years Greenland flourished, new communities settled, trade with other countries grew, and the population increased. Around 1325 the climate cooled down considerably, people started to abandon the northern settlements. By 1350 glaciers covered the northern settlements, and the southern most settlements were dying out as well.That was posted in 2004. What did the poster expect for the future? The Sun could start going through a down trend in sunspot activity at any time. We could find ourselves back in a state similar to the Maunder Minimum with decades of much colder weather. Or sunspot activity could increase to an even higher level and temperatures could rise more than the amount some models project as a consequence of higher atmospheric carbon dioxide.Which is exacly what is being predicted by the Russian scientist. He is not alone. The New Scientist report, along with other scientific assessments warning of global cooling, also come as a blow to the campaign -- led by David Suzuki and one of the directors of his foundation -- to portray all who raise doubts about climate change theory -- so-called skeptics -- as pawns of corporate PR thugs manipulating opinion. If the Suzuki claim is true, then the tentacles of Exxon-Mobil reach deeper into science than anyone has so far imagined.Funny thing is that solar output is not handled well in current climate change models. That was discussed at length at Winds of Change. In fact the discussion basically evicerates the whole cimate change modeling community for over promising on the reliability of their results. The more I look into this the more I find it is old news. From October of 2000 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (USA). Although the processes of climate change are not completely understood, an important causal candidate is variation in total solar output. Reported cycles in various climate-proxy data show a tendency to emulate a fundamental harmonic sequence of a basic solar-cycle length (11 years) multiplied by 2N (where N equals a positive or negative integer). A simple additive model for total solar-output variations was developed by superimposing a progression of fundamental harmonic cycles with slightly increasing amplitudes. The timeline of the model was calibrated to the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary at 9,000 years before present. The calibrated model was compared with geophysical, archaeological, and historical evidence of warm or cold climates during the Holocene. The evidence of periods of several centuries of cooler climates worldwide called "little ice ages," similar to the period anno Domini (A.D.) 1280-1860 and reoccurring approximately every 1,300 years, corresponds well with fluctuations in modeled solar output. A more detailed examination of the climate sensitive history of the last 1,000 years further supports the model. Extrapolation of the model into the future suggests a gradual cooling during the next few centuries with intermittent minor warmups and a return to near little-ice-age conditions within the next 500 years. This cool period then may be followed approximately 1,500 years from now by a return to altithermal conditions similar to the previous Holocene Maximum.You have to ask yourself, why isn't this being discussed? Why wasn't it in Al Gore's movie on climate? Which I'm told is set to recieve an Oscar this year. I'm willing to bet Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth will go down with Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. A triumph of propaganda. More on the 1,500 year solar cycle Cross Posted at Power and Control posted by Simon on 01.31.07 at 09:23 PM
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Somehow my attempt to include links in my previous comment did not work. The first link, in the reference to the page with Eddy's figures, was to http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html and the second was to http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html which is your "CO2 in Geologic Time" link from Power and Control. Sorry about the link goof in the first comment. jhleibniz · February 1, 2007 12:06 AM I don't disagree with you, Simon. I just disagree with your light handling of the statement, "over promising on the reliability of their results." "Over promising" is way too polite a term for what they do. In the best case they're blithering idiots/morons. Worst case they're lying bastards. Their statistical models are less accurate than tossing a coin. They can't predict tomorrow's temperature (or next week, or next month) with a greater than coin toss degree of accuracy, but we're supposed to forget about that and believe they can predict what will happen in 20, 30, or 40 years? That's not science and it certainly isn't statistics. If your model can't be tested to show that you can predict with ANY degree of accuracy what will occur (when it does occur later) then your model is complete crap. And they HAVE tried to do that. They've used the models to predict, say 1850 to 1900 based on the data in the model for the previous years... and their predictions are wrong, wrong, wrong. The Krakatoa eruption of 1883 was said to have spewed more into the atmosphere as all the combined entire human generated pollution ever generated from the beginning of our existence to the present, and we aren't able to get it as high into the air as volcanoes are. The result was a 2 degree decline in global temperature for about 1 to 2 years. Global temperature were a lot different in the Middle Ages, when Britain was growing wine grapes, and there weren't any SUVs pumping toxins into air back then. Leftists are supposed to LIKE nature and worship at her feet. Well, climate change is NATURAL. Here is what I plan to do: In 2000, Congress passed a data integrity act. It requires that any legislation that relies on statistical data or modeling data be accurate. If the law is based on faulty data, the law is null and void. So IF Congress attempts to pass flawed legislation in response to flawed data, I intend to gather a group of like-minded individuals and sue their asses. Mrs. du Toit · February 1, 2007 12:45 AM |
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Thankk you for pointing me to the National Academy of Sciences article. The news about the connection between long-term climate changes and changing solar activity is even older than what you mention in this article. John H. Eddy is the one who identified and named the Maunder and Spohrer Minima in the Seventies, and is the source of the figures here, which I found by your link to this page. As I said in a comment on neo-neocon's recent post on climate change, I have wondered for a long time why the global warming discussion paid so little attention to the paleoclimate studies of Eddy and others like him, so I am delighted to see that this is finally being done.