A mainstream meme that cannot speak its name

Dr. Helen links a video which ought to be seen by anyone who doesn't believe misandry exists...

Let me pause right there to note an unexpected irony which proves one of the points made by the video. As I typed the first sentence of this post, the word "misandry" was flagged in red, even though I spelled it correctly, and even though it is hardly a new word. It appears in my Webster's New International Dictionary, Second Ed., 1958. And it merits an entry in Wikipedia. But according to my spell-check, there is NO SUCH WORD:


I have to say, it's not often that I stumble onto evidence in support of the subject of a blog post simply by the act of writing the first sentence.

Anyway, the video is a real eye-opener.

Just as misandry does not exist, men do not exist, unless they commit crimes or do bad things. When they do good things, they are "people" or "personnel." When they do bad things, they are men. Seriously, watch it and see if it rings true. It certainly did for me --and the sudden realization that I was unaware that these things had been slipped by me over the years started to piss me off, as I don't take kindly to being manipulated.

To deny that the connection between misandry and feminism would be to deny reality. In fact, leading feminists such as Ms. Magazine editor Robin Morgan and New York Now leader Ti-Grace Atkinson were more than ordinary misandrists; they went to far as to embrace the notorious Valerie Solanas, the psychotic who shot and nearly killed Andy Warhol, and who wrote the SCUM Manifesto -- which specifically called for "gendercide" (the killing of men -- SCUM stands for "Society for the Cutting Up of Men"):

Feminist Robin Morgan (later editor of Ms. magazine) demonstrated for Solanas' release from prison. Ti-Grace Atkinson, the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women (NOW), described Solanas as "the first outstanding champion of women's rights."[9] Another member, Florynce Kennedy, represented Solanas at her trial, calling her "one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement."[9]
I read through the Manifesto, and the woman was a genuine lunatic. It does not say much for feminism (or the supposedly mainstream Ms. Magazine) that they would support someone like that. The book is still in print, and is considered trendy these days Claire Dederer, writing in The Nation on June 14, 2004, called the SCUM Manifesto "a chic little object."

I realize that the above is extreme misandry, and not the more mainstream type that simply edits out men and only mentions them to put them down. However, the reason I cited it is to demonstrate that even the most rabid misandry (to the point of advocacy of elimination of men) has long been acceptable in leading feminist circles. Moreover, radical and extreme ideas have a way of making less radical but equally mistaken ideas look "moderate" or "mainstream" or even "reasonable." And these days, what would once have been seen as clear misandry has become quite mainstream -- a position which Dr. Helen notes that many men and even conservative men have e,braced:

Why is it that when the left and right finally agree on something, it's to take away the civil rights of men and treat them like dogs? Apparently, misandry is a bipartisan endeavor.
I often suspect that activists hope to create backlash (activists need enemies after all), and while I don't know what the statistics are, it would not surprise me if misandry is encouraging misogyny among men.

What do they want? A protracted war between the sexes?

Whose interest does that serve?

MORE: "Sexism" is one of those supposedly gender-neutral words which on its face might be applied to discriminatory conduct by women against men as well as men against women. But in practice, it is almost always used to denote misconduct by men.

However, in a book portion titled "Can Women Be Sexist?" the authors make the fascinating claim that women, too, can be "sexist" -- not if they oppress men, but if they oppress other women:

there are dozens of guys who still view the trading floor as a frat house. Given the ethnography of their professional environment, it's especially surprising (and disappointing) to hear such a typical locker room remark ['The only reason Melissa got the job is because she is sleeping with Jim'] coming from a female colleague. Has Gordon Gecko submerged Girl Power among Gen-X/Y women? We wondered, just how hard are women making it for other women to get ahead at work? Are women guilty of sexism?
By way of contrast, would any man who made a remark like "The only reason Jim got the job is because he is sleeping with Melissa" be accused of sexism? Against a member of his own sex?

Sexism sounds neutral, but it's a one way definition.

UPDATE: My thanks to Glenn Reynolds for linking this post, and a warm welcome to all.

Your comments are invited -- agree or disagree.

posted by Eric on 02.26.10 at 04:10 PM


I, too, was unaware of this phenomenon until viewing the video, and it strikes me as being dangerously insidious. I wonder if this is yet another example of the memetic subversion that has been infecting our culture for several generations now.

What particularly bothers me is how easily men participate in this behavior, as was shown in the examples of newsmen and military affairs spokesman. It's also fascinating to contemplate that the same political correctness that is responsible for downplaying misandry is also reluctant to voice complaint with Islam's repression of women and also granted a pass to Bill Clinton, even when it was revealed that he had raped Juanita Broderick.

TomA   ·  February 26, 2010 7:48 PM

If we all became Muslim, this problem would go away.

bob sykes   ·  February 27, 2010 7:32 AM

To get a job, all I need do is sleep with Jim? Face up or down? Cool, sign me up.

dr kill   ·  February 27, 2010 7:38 AM

Just change Homer Simpson into Hermione Simpson and see how long the show lasts...

ruffwork   ·  February 28, 2010 1:29 PM

I have been noting this for some time now.

Other examples?

Have you seen those 'Broadview Security (formerly Brink's)' ads on cable? Every single one of them is a happy, pretty single woman or mother, whose world is suddenly and horrifyingly penetrated(!) by a... a... a.... psychotic MAN!!!! Then saved of course by Broadview's product. Multiple ads, all exactly the same. They bug the living crap out of me.

Ads in general. Look for the ditzy, clumsy, less-than-smart woman in advertising. Look hard. Now look for the same description for a man. Play a little game. Look at your watch, then click through the channels and see how long it takes to come to an ad with a smart intelligent (dominant?) woman and a goofy, clumsy, doofus husband/boyfriend just waiting to be shown how right she is and how dumb he is. Five minutes tops, easy.

See previous para, and apply it to TV sitcoms.

And so on and so on.

Thankfully, there are conservative women out there who are horrified by what this is doing to both their sons and/or real or potential mates. How big an impact they may have, who can say, but this cultural trend is monstrous, debilitating, and, guess what.... it ain't doing women any good at all in the end.

Andrew X   ·  February 28, 2010 1:31 PM

TO: All
RE: Can't Find....

....'Misandry' on your Windows machine?

Get a Mac!

It's in my Mac OS X Widgets dictionary.


P.S. Thanks for pointing out more evidence of how Microsoft is EVIL!

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 1:40 PM

Here's another example: American Profile magazine, one of those Sunday supplement types, has a cover story this week on how it's almost the Girl Scout's 100th anniversary. This is in the exact 100th anniversary month of the Boy Scouts! They couldn't have done the research on the founding of the Girl Scouts without finding that it came out of the Boy Scout movement exactly 100 years ago in February! And, no, there was no earlier issue on the Boy Scouts.

Karen   ·  February 28, 2010 1:51 PM
Sexism sounds neutral, but it's a one way definition.

Thus, it has much is common with racism.

Henry Bowman   ·  February 28, 2010 1:58 PM

Sorry to be so sexist, but all this complaining is awfully womanly. Life is still super awesome for men. Time to man-up, boys!

MW2   ·  February 28, 2010 1:58 PM

Sadly, such attidudes toward men as now promoted by society in general have made men defensive and less open to women. Since the sex drive operates independently of attitude, the relationships with women tend to evolve towards that of only sexual attraction. It seems that women resentful of being viewed as sex objects pioneered the hatred of men as the solution have only intensified the problem.

willis   ·  February 28, 2010 2:03 PM

I think the proper usage is "Misandrosy". Here's an example.

Noah Nehm   ·  February 28, 2010 2:09 PM

While misandry absolutely exists and must absolutely be acknowledged and addressed, this video is truly absurd. Anybody who thinks this is evidence of anything needs to get a grip. So much so that I'm not even going to bother listing the completely self evident reasons for the language used in the selected pieces. Focus needs to be on the real places men have become physically, emotionally, socially and fiscally vulnerable in our society, not wholly transparent dismissable irrationality.

Get-a-Grip   ·  February 28, 2010 2:12 PM

"attidudes"! I love it! I would be worried if women (which is to say, the mainstream media) all of a sudden started saying how great men were. I prefer them to be frightened of my awesome masculine power and I enjoy watching them over-reacting in such absurd ways.

Robert Speirs   ·  February 28, 2010 2:17 PM

One other bit of linguistic fun is that black men are nearly always "men" when discussing demographically-oriented topics, while white men are always "white males". Women are always women, never "females".

Foobarista   ·  February 28, 2010 2:33 PM

It's always encouraging to see the issue of male devaluaton in our society discussed, as it's so ubiquitous in our culture that most are about as aware of it as a fish is of being wet.

Recogning the problem is the first step. Now on to solving it...

The powers that be in the entertainment industry are beholden to rigid principles of political correctness, and that is not likely to change anytime soon. Perhaps the example of Fox News provides us with some hope for a solution. Before Fox, the broadcast media was resolutely liberal. Until 1996, what now seems abundantly obvious had not been recognized, namely that a huge portion of the American public wanted news from a politically non-liberal source. If enough talented and well-heeled people recognize that an entertainment network geared toward the huge number of traditionalists/politically incorrect in this country could enjoy success similiar to Fox News, then there is hope.

Reggie1971   ·  February 28, 2010 2:40 PM

Real men don't worry about shit

Anonymous   ·  February 28, 2010 2:43 PM

Matt Lauer and other feminized men may squat to piss but I don't.

Xixi   ·  February 28, 2010 2:44 PM


How exactly is life "still super awesome for men"? Please explain and give examples, especially those related to divorce and child custody, health and life expectancy, education, and popular culture in Western society. Please don't limit your examples to a handful of older, upper-income men at the end of long careers in Fortune 500 companies.

JWE   ·  February 28, 2010 2:51 PM

Ah...you're all starting to wake up.

Have some coffee, wipe the sleep from your eyes and think about it for a bit.

When you've reached the point that you understand that nothing you've ever been taught by our traditional institutions is true and correct, you'll be awake. Pissed off, but awake.

Channel those negative emotions wisely.

Warren Bonesteel   ·  February 28, 2010 2:54 PM

Here is another interesting media habit that has bugged me for years. This goes back to when Bush was still president.

Whenever "Mainstream Media" persons referred to Bill Clinton it was always "President Clinton", never just "Clinton" or "Former President Clinton". Then when talking about Bush it was always simply "Bush" never "President Bush". I've seen talking heads talk about "President Clinton" and "Bush" in the same sentence while Bush was still the actual president at the time.

I've always wondered why it seemed like I was the only person to notice this.

Ed   ·  February 28, 2010 2:55 PM

What do they want? A protracted war between the sexes?

Whose interest does that serve?

Who benefits from a protracted war between the sexes? The activists.

This isn't really any difference from people who want to see racism everywhere. A fire eater must eat fire, even if she has to kindle it herself.

Borepatch   ·  February 28, 2010 2:57 PM

The media thinks that they are creating sympathy for 'poor' women and that men are strong and do not require any empathy. In reality what the media is doing is giving the impression that women are either incompetant or helpless and that men are more logical, know what they are doing and as such accept all consequences thereby requiring no empathy. Now, as no woman will admit to being incompetant (although some should) the only option left is that of 'helpless woman'. If it's not a woman's fault that she is helpless then it must be those big bad boogey man out there trying to keep her down.
I can tell you nothing pisses me off more than being thought of as 'helpless woman'. This aggrevates me because it means that I was judged first by my sex and second by my ability.
Contrary to the video, I know women who are sanitation workers and road crew. I always thought I couldn't do something because I did not have the ability to do it or did not have the desire to learn the required skills. While I love men (granted I do not love everything they do) when looking at the grand scheme of things misandry is dangerous not only to men but also to women. It is dangerous because it does not hold women accountable for the success and failures based on ability rather than sex and secondly it allows for a double standard in the treatment of one sex to another. Misandry holds women back the same way misogyny holds men back. The difference is misogyny is a social faux pas while misandry seems to be given the VIP treatment. How sad.

Anon   ·  February 28, 2010 2:59 PM

Why am I and my comment above
"Real men don't worry about shit"
Anonymous ?

Just asking?

k   ·  February 28, 2010 3:03 PM

And now that comment have vanished.
Great work
I do not need to sleep for at least 10 hrs
Keep me up.

keeskennis   ·  February 28, 2010 3:07 PM

Trouble is, when men behave in an antisocial manner (rape, violence, theft), it's in ways that are easily defined as criminal.

When women behave badly, it's lots more subtle, through frauds and machinations and manipulations.

One of those stats is misleading: men commit suicide at higher rates because they're more successful at it. I think women actually attempt suicide at a higher rate, but we're much more timid, using pills and wrist-slashing and such. Men swallow their guns and get it over with.

Nevertheless, one only needs to look at popular sitcoms to see the new stereotype of the good-hearted but bumbling husband and the more intelligent, sensible wife.

It's not just Homer Simpson, it's everywhere, at least here in the States. Contrast that with I Love Lucy for the exact reverse: well-meaning but bumbling wife with a wise and sensible husband.

We call Lucy sexist, whereas today's stuff is just normal.

dicentra   ·  February 28, 2010 3:08 PM

Just out of curiosity, I typed the word “misandry” into an MS Word 2007 document just now, and spell-check flagged it. It wants to substitute the word “masonry.”

Eric Kendall   ·  February 28, 2010 3:10 PM

I missed it.
Classical Values is OK
My miwstake, OK

keeskennis   ·  February 28, 2010 3:16 PM

I cannot believe misandry has just been noticed by a site as sharp as Classical Values. Perhaps it is because my mother is a feminists and I heard this sh*t daily all through my youth and into adulthood. "Now, you must understand my young son, it is never right for a man to hit a woman." "Cool Mom, then why is it okay for you to hit Dad? Or, "It's okay son, you must understand that women don't have the opportunities men do and don't earn as much money." "Okay, I guess that's why you wanted everything in the divorce you initiated and held out until he gave in and let you have it to so you would go away?" "So that's that why your Dad paid for your college education, but since I am a boy, that's why you refuse to co-sign a college loan for me." Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom, I surely do, but I've heard these double standards all my life. One would have to be a dullard not to pick up on it.

MT   ·  February 28, 2010 3:29 PM

ruffwork · February 28, 2010 01:29 PM

"Look for the ditzy, clumsy, less-than-smart woman in advertising. Look hard. Now look for the same description for a man. Play a little game. Look at your watch, then click through the channels and see how long it takes to come to an ad with a smart intelligent (dominant?) woman and a goofy, clumsy, doofus husband/boyfriend just waiting to be shown how right she is and how dumb he is. Five minutes tops, easy."

I think this is just because Jessica Simpson hasn't been making any commercials lately. She more than makes up for any other 'voided' examples.

Yadda   ·  February 28, 2010 3:56 PM

Ain't no bigot like a leftist bigot.

It's a naturally occurring part and parcel of who they are.

Blame Crash   ·  February 28, 2010 4:00 PM

My MS Word also doesn’t recognize the word misandry, and yet when I go to the very same programs dictionary, there it be!

Blame Crash   ·  February 28, 2010 4:09 PM

RE: Wrong

I cannot believe misandry has just been noticed by a site as sharp as Classical Values. -- MT

It's not that CV just noticed it. Rather it's that CV just noticed that MS Word is EVIL....along with a lot of other outfits.


[Nobody said Life was 'fair'.]

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 4:11 PM

As the mother of boys I've seen them getting emotionally and psychologically pounded for being boys from the moment they entered school.

It's now gotten to the point there are books I can't read and movies I can't watch without a visceral reaction. And I go insane watching commercials.

I went to an all-girl school (for my sins.) Anyone who thinks women are better than men should live in a woman-only environment for five years.

This sick, sick, sick prejudice against all that is masculine has to stop.

Sarah   ·  February 28, 2010 5:02 PM

Misandry is part and parcel of the left's Gramscian attack on every aspect of Western civilization. Ironically, in Europe, this is going to get them nothing but servitude to new masters under a harsh and uncompromising shariah law. In America, it is reflected in the growing lumpenproletarianization of the people, and the transformation of a once-healthy yeomanry into a population of drug-taking, thieving, fornicating savages.

Punditarian   ·  February 28, 2010 5:11 PM

My 14 year old son has complained about the way men are portrayed on TV shows for probably a year at least. We have talked about it many times. I have 4 boys and 1 girl. I have always encouraged my boys to be boys. I insisted on excellent manners from all my children, no difference between boys and girl, that did not mean trying to get the boys to behave like a girl in order to do so. Ever notice how many school teachers think they do though?

Grace O'Malley   ·  February 28, 2010 5:23 PM

I've been aware of this for decades, so it's nice to see some push-back building up.

Hucbald   ·  February 28, 2010 5:27 PM

My 4th grade elementary teacher hated boys. So many detentions, from sharpening a pencil to writing with a dull pencil to not perfectly memorizing my 7 times table while she encouraged the class to laugh at me for messing up. I haven't met her equal since then. Escape captivity, grow up, realize you can flip the bird to anybody, and the misandriers lose their power. So does holding a grudge against a single authoritarian teacher that affected the rest of my life, and making fun of people that remind remind me of her through their actions, make me a misogynist? Yep, you are right. Just leave me alone with my toaster and my tv and my steel belted radials. And my friends and family. Then again, my wife works in an environment that is about 5:1 girls vs guys. The guys that are there for the money and power don't last, with similar results from the ladies that gossip and complain maliciously constantly. Boys beat each other up, girls backbite. One is illegal and the other isn't.

Bear   ·  February 28, 2010 5:28 PM

Many years ago a friend of mine quipped: "the reason they call it television 'programming' is because that is what they're doing to you." Thanks for shining the light on this one.

dsm   ·  February 28, 2010 5:28 PM

What do they want? A protracted war between the sexes?

Whose interest does that serve?

Are you kidding?

Remember the line from the Rolling Stones song? Please to meet you, hope you guessed my name.

Paul A'Barge   ·  February 28, 2010 5:33 PM

TO: Paul A'Barge, et al.
RE: Heh

Remember the line from the Rolling Stones song? Please to meet you, hope you guessed my name. -- Paul A'Barge

I remember the song and I know all too well the inference.


[The Devil is most 'devilish' when he is 'respectable'.]

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 5:37 PM

What you people have to realize is that fnord men are the root of all evil.

Beck   ·  February 28, 2010 6:11 PM

Like many things unspoken in the mainstream, this meme is widely perceived and mocked out in the greater world. E.g.: http://abstrusegoose.com/246

ArtD0dger   ·  February 28, 2010 6:22 PM

Fascinating article. Of late, I've been sensitive to the frequent use of white males as a foil in popular culture and advertising (presumably because they're the only group remaining that are suitable for ridicule in our politically-correct world). This, however, represents an even deeper societal pathology than I had previously suspected.

Flakk   ·  February 28, 2010 7:03 PM

I was an early (1960s) feminist; still am. But the feminism I embraced was the feminism that sought to remove barriers women faced, both legal and customary; prejudices regarding our capabilities; and the cultural appeal of predatory and depersonalized sexuality. It had nothing to do with turning men into monsters. So some 20 years ago when I asked the students in one of my junior level university classes (a course on gender) to give me stereotypes of men and women, I was shocked that ALL the male stereotypes were negative -- and that some of the men came up with most of the stereotypes. (To be fair, some of the women most readily came up with female stereotypes that I find objectionable -- but they did articulate positive female stereotypes.) I asked then for positive stereotypes, and the class could not come up with any. I had no idea that the predominantly male anti-social behaviors had so obliterated positive ones. I expect, had I had sons, along with a daughter, I would have been aware of this excessive swing of the pendulum. I have the feeling that the current younger generation is righting the balance. Let's hope.

Jane   ·  February 28, 2010 7:14 PM

TO: Jane
RE: Good Luck....

I have the feeling that the current younger generation is righting the balance. Let's hope. -- Jane

...cause based on what I've seen as a judge and critic of high school forensics....

....it ain't happening.


[Education, v., replacing an empty mind with an open one.]

P.S. Too bad it ain't happening in the vaunted American public education system....

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 7:35 PM

Yeah, Colleges of Education are THE worst. Everyone fumes about the liberal arts, but I've never met a more mindless set of profs. than those who teach the elementary and high school teachers. There's an adage regarding agronomists, but it works for teachers just as much -- they are taught by people who learned everything they know 20 years ago, from profs. who learned their stuff 20 years before -- and so it goes. Since the 1970s was when all conventional wisdom shifted, we're stuck with the '70s for quite a while, I fear. At least in the liberal arts most faculty are deep into research in their own areas, and so are at least somewhat current in their knowledge of the world in their narrow area -- which is what they teach. But Education? Blather in blather out.

Jane   ·  February 28, 2010 8:27 PM

TO: Jane
RE: High School Teachers

....I've never met a more mindless set of profs. than those who teach the elementary and high school teachers. -- Jane

It was interesting to hear them refer to their students as their "children". Talk about in loco parentis gone awry.

By the by....where I focus on debate events, the distaff usually critiques 'interp' events. She is continually commenting on how the 'dramatic' rounds always seem to be dominated by female students and they focus on madness, mayhem and murder, usually of the abortion form...sometimes of suicidal form.

And these are the 'best' of the upcoming generation.

I think the 'focus' is indicative of something not very good.


[The future isn't what it used to be.]

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 8:57 PM

P.S. At the last event we judged, a week ago, she did a finals round from Humorous Interp. Afterwards she commented that she thought they had mis-identified the category. There was NOTHING 'funny' in ANY of the presentations. It was as if the Dramatic Interp had been evaluated. And this was supposed to be 'funny'?, was her comment to me on the drive home.

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 9:01 PM


I was reminded of that [in]famous National Lampoon cartoon. The one with the legless frog, wheeling its way out of the kitchen in a French bistro that specialized in frog-legs.

The caption reading....

That's not funny. That's 'sick'.

I suggested that she write that in her critique, next time she encounters such a presentation.

Chuck Pelto   ·  February 28, 2010 9:04 PM

I see the open war on men all the time, in commercials, especially. It's ok to make a man a total loser (Progressive commercial, 40-year-old guy says to that irritating Progressive Store Lady "but what if Mother won't let me drive?").

Occasionally you can make a black guy a loser, but not alone. He will be a lose with his white loser guy friend, unless he's a loser compared to a black woman. A black woman is never a loser.

Rarely will you find an incompetent woman in a commercial (I'm not talking about beer commercials, which are another form of fantasy). Guys can't figure out how to do anything correctly until a woman or young child shows them how. You can distract a man with a remote control. You can clean the house and pull the useless sleeping man on the couch out to the portable storage container and he won't know what happened until he wakes up at sundown.

It pisses me off to see this. I married a man, who knew what to do when Hurricane Ike remodeled our house with a large oak tree through the roof. This man has made our financial situation dramatically better than I would have been able to do, even if I made the same amount of money as he, because he's competent and smart. He's also funny, and wants me to be the best I can be. The time I made more money than him (shortly before quitting to have babies and raise them) he called every member of his family to tell them the good news.

I am glad to see this presentation. It's about time the chickification of everything stopped. It makes me sick.

MathMom   ·  February 28, 2010 9:39 PM

I see that others have noted it, but: TV commercials. The man, usually white man, is the dupe about 90% of the time.

FUBAR   ·  March 1, 2010 1:43 AM

Nothing particularly new here for me. And people wonder why I left America ten years ago. Well, duh. I'm a white male, and I was sick of being portrayed as the Source of all Evil.

jaafar   ·  March 1, 2010 7:53 AM

I am a 19-plus year USN vet who's long been training and educating my shipmates that women too can be abusers and harassers, but it often seems like a losing battle. One case I worked with involved a young petty officer whose girlfriend (another sailor) constantly abused him... mostly mentally but also physically... until he finally snapped and hit her. Of course what he did was wrong, but he was arrested and charged with battery while she was counseled and comforted. Fortunately for him, some of his girlfriend's friends gave statements about her behavior and he, and she, were both given anger management treatment. Another case I dealt with involved a sailor stabbed in his sleep by his wife, who had a history of mental illness, and the police showed up at the hospital to begin investigating him to see what he had done to instigate it.

I know "She asked for it" is a sexist stereotype, and any kind of domestic violence is wrong. But how often does this kind of thing happen? And is it ever investigated, or even taken seriously?

CJ Casey   ·  March 1, 2010 8:13 AM

Wake up, uhh, people (you know which gender I'm talking to.) You're obsolete. Women used to need you around for protection, for food and shelter, and for babies. Now, what are you good for? Crime is down, they have their own money and the sperm bank is nearby, with better product than you have to offer. It's a wonder why so many women don't abort fetuses who suffer from the genetic disease known as testosterone-poisoning syndrome. Surely they'll soon wise up. "People", you're done. Get over it.

Larry   ·  March 1, 2010 11:24 AM

This helps explain the mania to rename words like "chairman" as "chairperson" or juct "chair". If "man" is always a bad word, then "chairman" probably sounds offensive.

Wiz   ·  March 1, 2010 4:34 PM

Well, if other women don't want "men" around, I'll take 'em!

But, seriously, all of my friends are male. Of the ones who are married, I don't really get along with their wives. At all. People say I have masculine attitudes, which I take to be a compliment. It means that when my male friends are indulging themselves in a few minutes' gripe about women, they add a little codicil: "present company excepted".

I've never met a misogynistic male who hasn't been personally abused by some disgusting female. But I've met lots of misandric women (myself included, for a while), who have never been treated badly by any particular men.

Women, stop getting your opinions out of magazines and think for yourselves for once.

Jennifer Snow   ·  March 2, 2010 11:14 AM

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