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November 05, 2009
"the name tells us a lot"
That's what Shepard Smith on Fox News just said about the officer who is described as the primary gunman who killed 12 people and wounded 31 in a mass shooting at Fort Hood Texas. He is described as "a convert to Islam" and a major who was about to deploy to Iraq, and who was known to be upset about the fact that he was about to deploy. They are not giving out the name on Fox News, although they keep saying "We've been given a name" and "the name tells us a lot." This aroused my curiosity, so I checked around online. According to this news site, the shooter has been identified as Malik Nadal Hasan: Fort Hood, TX (WSYR-TV/ABC News) - Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at a Texas military base by what officials believe was possibly carried out by an Army officer.Apparently there were two other suspects, so there seems to have been a plot. MORE: The dead suspect's name is all over the Internet, so I don't know why Fox is stalling in reporting it. Frankly, I'm not surprised. We live in a time when "mainstream" American Muslims support a violent, murderous advocate of a Sharia state in the United States (also a convert to Islam) and call him a "respected Imam" after a fatal shootout with the FBI. MORE: At 5:56 p.m. Shepard Smith explained that they will not release the suspect's name until the Pentagon confirms it. Suspects names have become more sensitive than ever, haven't they? AND MORE: As of 6:03 p.m., Fox News had confirmed the name from the Pentagon. It was Major Malik Nadal Hasan. I hope no one calls the murderous bastard a martyr, but they probably will. My opinion is that I hope he rots in hell. AFTERTHOUGHT: If Major Malik Nadal Hasan was a convert to Islam as is being reported, does that mean he originally had another name? If so, I assume that will be reported eventually, but these days I don't like to take anything for granted. Is it reasonable to speculate that a mass shooting of U.S. soldiers (apparently by multiple plotters) might have been, um, an act of war? MORE: Glenn Reynolds has a roundup of links, and says this: Note that early reports are usually wrong, but it sounds quite bad, and likely to have some sort of terror connection. But stay tuned.It certainly doesn't look like the act of a lone nut. AND MORE: Drudge has this picture up of Hasan. He reportedly worked as an Army psychiatrist, who had accomplices. The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.Still no confirmation on the report that he's a convert to Islam. There's also this: The CounterTerrorist Unit said they have "no word" yet on whether this incident was terrorism-related.People are entitled to know. Or are they? MORE: Regarding the ongoing mystery of the man's background, investigators say they're not clear on his religion or how and when he got his name (which strikes me as peculiar, for the Army would keep records on all officers): A source tells the CBS News investigates team that Hasan is a licensed psychiatrist in Bethesda, Md. He is a drug and rehab specialist who got his Virginia psychiatry license July 12, 2005. MORE: Via Glenn Reynolds (who notes than Hasan's degree is from Damascus University), Donald Sensing has this: As of now, the lead agency for the investigation would be US Army Criminal Investigation Command, know by its historic initials of CID, because the crimes took place on Army territory. Interagency cooperation with the FBI and ATF and state law enforcement agencies is already being done. If, however, the shootings are deemed to be terrorism (perhaps an Islamist connection), by federal law the FBI is the lead agency for all terrorism investigations.And according to a report I found here (which also confirms the Damascus University education), Hasan was born in Virginia to Jordanian parents. MORE: Gateway Pundit puts it simply: This was jihad.If it was, that would make it an act of war. And if this man was some sort of enemy agent, he should not have been in the Army in the first place. AND MORE: The latest reports are that Hasan is alive: Authorities said immediately after the shootings that they had killed the suspected shooter, but later in the evening they recanted and said that he was alive and in stable condition at a hospital, watched by a guard.I still hope he rots in hell, as soon as possible. (Assuming he did it, of course. He now becomes the alleged shooter.) MORE: In yet another (but more recent) version of the story, Hasan is now described as the only suspect in the case: The U.S. soldier accused of carrying out a mass killing at Fort Hood in Texas is still alive and in custody according to the U.S. military, with no other suspects.As to why they said there were other shooters, who knows? I think it's going to take some time to get the facts. MORE: Something does not make sense. There still persistent reports that the man converted to Islam. According to the Huffington Post, "late in life": Arab and Muslim political groups are bracing themselves for a wave of anger and attacks after news broke on Thursday that the primary suspect behind the shooting deaths of twelve soldiers at Fort Hood had a Arabic and/or Muslim-sounding name.Then there's this: Everyone agrees that Major Hasan was Muslim. Most say that he was a recent convert, but his cousin says that he had been a Muslim all his life.If a Colonel knew that Hasan had expressed sympathy with the shooter at the recruiting office, why didn't he speak up? Something does not make sense about the man being a "recent convert," because if he was born with a Muslim name to Muslim parents, he is presumably Muslim from birth. Unless "recent convert" means he was a recent convert to a radical form of Islamic fundamentalism.
Colonel Lee (who knew him) asks, "Why was he transferred to Fort Hood?" I have to ask a question. Why the hell was he allowed to be in the Army? And why did they say he was dead? I'm beginning to smell something fishy about the whole thing. MORE: From Allahpundit, some great questions: The $64,000 questions: What was he doing at Fort Hood among the population if he thought suicide bombers were heroes? And why are the feds tipping the AP about this if they haven't even confirmed that he was the author yet?And, So here's where we are right now, near 11 p.m. ET. This guy raged about Muslims standing up to aggressors, praised suicide bombers, and the lead theory in the media is ... PTSD? For a guy who's ... never been deployed? A friend just e-mailed me with a good question: Even if he was suffering from some type of trauma from listening to vets' war stories, shouldn't a shrink trained in dealing with trauma been able to diagnose himself and seek treatment?PTSD is about as lame an explanation as you can get. If this guy had PTSD, then so did Mohammad Atta, and so does Osama bin Laden. And Timothy McVeigh. And I'm sure Stalin and Hitler did too. Since when do we put incidental psychological factors ahead of primary motivations? MORE: Also from Allahpundit, there's this from NPR: A source tells NPR's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the time.And the Army promoted this religious nut to Major? Alllahpundit also reports this: I'm hearing on Twitter that Fox interviewed one of his neighbors within the last half-hour or so and that the neighbor claims Hasan was handing out Korans just this morning. Does anyone have video? Or is this a bad lead? Smells fishy to me but multiple people have mentioned it.A lot of things smell fishy. I think there's a lot of disinformation floating around and there's sure to be more. MORE: Amidst the rest of the chaotic reporting, I found a report that according to his imam, Hasan considered himself to be a Palestinian: At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.Well, considering the reports that his parents are Jordanians, and the fact that many Jordanians are in fact displaced Palestinians, it is entirely possible that his parents were Palestinians. If Hasan's parents were Palestinians (or descended from Palestinians), wouldn't that make Hasan a Palestinian according to the commonly accepted definition of that term as it is used in virtually every Arab and Muslim country in the world, as well as many other countries? Here's the Wiki definition: In its common usage today, the term "Palestinian" refers to a person whose ancestors had lived in the territory corresponding to British Mandate Palestine for some length of time prior to 1948.Are we to believe that Hasan's imam's definition of Palestinian as someone "born in Palestine" is different from that of the rest of the Muslim world as well as Wikipedia? Or is there something fishy going on here too? MORE: Hasan's imam Faizul Khan is no ordinary imam. He is on the Board of Directors of the ISNA, a radical Wahhabi outfit which "enforces extremist Wahhabi theological writ in America's mosques." AND MORE (This is now November 6): According to the base commander at Fort Hood, Hasan yelled "ALLAHHU AKBAR!" when he started shooting. That sounds like Jihad to me. The only question in my mind is whether this was part of a larger plot. But I expect to see a lot of denial. posted by Eric on 11.05.09 at 05:44 PM
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Thanks Donna for the valuable information. FWIW, my dad was a doctor, and he told me that psychiatrists have a higher suicide rate than any other medical specialty. Eric Scheie · November 5, 2009 08:25 PM From what I understand, his job as a psychiatrist would have been to encourage returning soldiers to unburden themselves by sharing their wartime stories. I don't know why a Muslim would be placed in that position in the first place (unless he wasn't honest about his faith, or a reawakening of his faith had occurred). How could he not feel personally conflicted? And as Donna B. says, psychiatrists are not very balanced to begin with. Beth · November 5, 2009 10:54 PM Sorry, that should have been as ERIC said. Beth · November 5, 2009 10:55 PM What to say? Frankly, eric, I am more concerned about YOU losing it, than I am about the alleged Ft.Hood murderer. Keep the faith, friend. Penny · November 6, 2009 12:37 AM We've been in Afghanistan and Iraq for how long? Why would someone who obviously has major objections to what we're doing over there remain in the military? I was under the impression that most people enlist for a few years at a time? People who join the military know exactly what they're signing up for and if they don't initially, they should have it figured out before re-enlisting. Melissa · November 6, 2009 12:40 AM You are right Melissa... but those who have been trained in a specialty like medicine generally sign up for longer terms than others. It would not surprise me at all that any doctor (any specialty) who signed up before 9/11/2001 never expected to serve in a battlefield. Though, I don't know for sure, I think this man must have re-enlisted... I do not know what the enlistment time is in exchange for an MD. It's four years for a bachelors... My son-in-law is a Major... and my daughter kept saying... how could an officer turn against his troops... then she asked how could any Soldier, regardless of rank, turn against his fellow Soldiers, regardless their rank. She has finally heard from all her friends and none were injured, so her tears of worry have somewhat dried up. The tears of sadness for those families who have had a Soldier die in this travesty may flow for some time. Her tears of anger... I don't know what it will take to staunch those. I have not heard such anger in her voice since Sep 2001. Donna B. · November 6, 2009 01:08 AM My family is of the southern Scots-Irish tradition that holds military service as an honor and duty. That there is a Revolutionary War veteran in our genealogy is not a suprise. (One proven, three or four more, not proven... but we know they were there fighting from Alamance on.) My ancestors were not always on the same side. My Arkansas ancestors were Confederate soldiers, my Alabama ancestors were Union soldiers (they actually tried to secede from Alabama when it joined the Confederacy) and... I have one ancestor who fought for both sides. So, I am no stranger to political disagreements. But... religious disagreements bound with political ones... that I fear more than anything. Either is bad enough... together, it is evil, IMHO. Donna B. · November 6, 2009 01:30 AM Nitghline was speculating that taunts from Army personnel drove him over the edge. My take? Sudden Jihad Syndrome. M. Simon · November 6, 2009 02:06 AM Would there have been taunts from Army personnel had he not presented himself as a Muslim opposed to Army goals? My husband was a Marine, enlisted in the early '60s and there's not doubt in my mind that hazing takes place in the military. Yet... for the most part it's friendly hazing... and it's not automatically aimed at those who hold a different viewpoint. For the most part, hazing is a contest... who can crawl past the sentry and sabotage next day's assignment. Who... can disrupt the normal daily routine with a "bomb" in the latrine... Though some of these antics and practical jokes resulted in injury to Soldiers and Marines, that was never the intent. This officer's intent was harm at the least... and most likely he intended death. That is NOT the same. Does anyone think taunts legitimize the killing of anyone? Where is the justice in "you've made fun of me therefore I will kill you?" Fun... taunting... it's something to learn to deal with. It's either based in reality or it's not. If I make fun of you for believing in unicorns, does that that give you the right to kill me? If you make fun of me for not believing in unicorns doe that give you the right to kill me?
Donna B. · November 6, 2009 02:49 AM I sure hope they send all those tough military types to sensitivity training. I cannot believe that they would allow name calling in today's Army? They probably have foul mouths and sweat too. good grief. They burn our soldiers. Blow themselves and civilians up. Beat women. Bugger boys. And we are so evil that we photograph them in women's underwear and for that, we all deserve death. hoss · November 6, 2009 10:51 AM You have to see and read it for yourself. The most assinine of all excuses for murder.... http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2009/11/fort-hood-shooting-on-guy-fawk.html
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I just spoke to my daughter who has many friends stationed or working at Ft. Hood. Her husband deployed from there in 2003 with the 4th ID.
She served four years in the Army, which is where she met her husband, who is still active duty.
Through tears, she questioned her support of Muslim soldiers... those she considered Americans first.
And I have to admit that I am biased against psychiatrists, civilian or military, having come to the conclusion they must be a bit crazy to go into the field in the first place. I don't like social workers either.
I doubt this man was an enemy agent from the start of his Army career. To gain the rank of Major requires a bit of time served even if one is in the medical corps.
But I think it likely that he was vulnerable to indoctrination because of his background. And... well, that sucks.
He has done nothing but make Americans more suspicious of Muslims no matter what their job or place of birth.
(OT - but I blame black Muslims for the disintegration of the African American community also. No data to back that up, just a feeling from watching it happen in the South.)