The Christianist theocrats are coming!
(First "sodomy," and now "charity.")

Christianity has always been considered almost synonymous with charity. Yet in order for charity to be charity, it has to be voluntary, for absent free choice, it ceases to be charity and becomes a tax. Now, I'm no theologian, but even by the most cursory analysis, it would seem that Jesus was reminding his followers that they had a duty to the state to pay their taxes when he said "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." But that is not charity, and there are a number of examples of Jesus stressing the importance of charity, and the example of the poor widow comes immediately to mind:

Luke 20:45-21:4

[45] While all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, [46] "Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. [47] They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely."

[21:1] As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. [2] He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. [3] "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. [4] All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on."

Interestingly, the rich people who "devour widow's houses" were religious scribes and the fact that they are condemned just before the poor widow is described as giving all she had is said constitute "condemnation of a religious system that robbed widows of their money."

But religious scribes don't hold that sort of power today, If any entity robs widows of their money, I think it would be the government, via the estate tax.

In any case, I have never seen a single Biblical example where Jesus advocates state and religious entanglement, least of all in matters of charity. Charity comes from the heart, and cannot be mandated; otherwise, how could people who are charitable be praised for their charity, or the uncharitable condemned for their selfishness?

So I cannot quite make sense of the religious dispute under discussion here:

A reading from the gospel according to Barack, and not for the first time either. I get a kick out of it, partly because it's healthy to see how shameless religious politicking looks when it comes from the other side and partly because I think the Christian ethos points more towards his side of the argument on this one. Yes, granted, there's nothing in the Bible about caring for the sick by rendering unto Caesar, but if it's a choice between that and letting millions of people go without treatment, what's the more Christian-y option? Schultz's point about democracy is interesting, too. It's one thing to have Herod sending down diktats about taxes for his personal policy whims, but if a majority of the public supports taxes as a way of covering the uninsured, isn't that a form of private charity albeit through a public mechanism? And if the answer to that is, "No, because those in favor should just start their own private institution devoted to covering the uninsured and donate to it voluntarily," then what, if any, divine repercussions should there be for people who don't donate to it? Is Jesus A-OK with you letting people suffer without care even if you have spare income you could offer them? Inquiring atheists want to know!
(Via Glenn Reynolds, who notes that the "Christianists" are everywhere.) I'm not an atheist, but think the answer depends on whether there is separation of church and state. We seem to have a president who does not believe in that supposedly settled constitutional doctrine, and who invokes religion as he sees fit. OTOH, some of his conservative religious opponents also don't believe in separation of church and state either, so they get all squirmy over the issue of public health care, because naturally they think that if taking care of the health of others is a Christian duty, and there's no separation of church and state, why, then clearly Christians should support state-mandated health care out of religious duty. (Otherwise, it would be hardly be consistent to have religion dictate sex laws, but not health care.)

I think the First Amendment stands for the principle that religion is not compulsory, which means that the state ought not to make people do things for religious reasons. If the state decides to tax people to make them pay for the health care of others, that is bad enough, but if the reason is to ensure compliance with Christian doctrine, then I am as much against religious-based public health care as I am religious-based sodomy laws.

posted by Eric on 09.04.09 at 10:11 AM





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Based on all the other things Jesus said, and what looks, in translation at least, like a penchant for sarcasm, I've always read "that which is Caesar's" to mean nothing, or, gnostically, anything Ceasar wants, because his Kingdom, being worldly, is false, and so anything it wants from you is worthless.

The one thing it can't mean is "It's your duty, sayeth the Lord, to pay worldly tribute," monetary or otherwise. Luther would say that. Jesus wouldn't.

guy on internet   ·  September 4, 2009 01:58 PM

Um, no. Wrong. Dead wrong.

The context in which this was brought up by Jesus was His enemies asking Him whether it is lawful to pay Caesar's taxes. They wanted to set up a trap; if No, then they would say "See, Romans! An insurrectionist!" but if Yes, then they would say "See, Jews! A Roman sympathizer!" A traitor, either way, you see?

Jesus then picks up the coin and asks, "Whose face is upon this coin" i.e. "upon whose authority is this currency issued?" When they say Caesar's, then He speaks His famous words, instituting separation of Church and State.

Or, more to the point, Jesus is saying that by using Roman currency in your daily dealings, you implicitly accept Roman authority, and therefore you have to cough up the taxes. At the same time, you claim to be under the authority of God as well, so you have to pay up to God also.

Also, the case for civil disobedience is set up there as well. If you believe rendering unto God means not paying taxes, then Caesar sayd you go to jail (or get lashed, or die, who knows?) and you therefore must render unto Caesar that way.

Gregory   ·  September 6, 2009 11:12 PM

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