Green Speculation

Commenter RAH at the Belmont Club (5:26 pm) speculates on how the Green Movement and CO2 hysteria have played into the hands of the Russians.

Russian President Medeyev was Gazprom President. In his new position he is buying contracts from other countries. Venezuela sells oil to Russia; Libya just signed a contract with Medeyev and Gazprom. I believe that they got the contracts from Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Saudi Arabia provides oil to the US as well as Kuwait and they are our client countries.

They have been trying to secure outside sources for oil and gas. They recently this spring went to the artic to lay claim to the sources that may be there. Both Sweden and Finland are contesting those areas. Canada also has interest in the artic. The sea ice in the artic actually has changed and the melt has been prominent in the Russian area. The Canadian ice has been getting thicker. The Russia took advantage of the open sea to explore and lay claim. Russia has been the primary interest in the PARS field in Iran that the French company just pulled out.

So Gazprom has known about the need to get more sources since this is Medeyev's obsession. The clash for oil sources will be the 21st century issue for some time to come. The fools who decry no oil for blood are clueless about how seriously nations will get to secure their energy. Energy is really the life and blood of a nations economy.

After the Soviet fall the Communist and Marxists groups and agitators went into the Green Movement. The Green Movement and the global warming scare have been targeted at Europe. Now it is curious that Russia has been from the 1990's trying to become Europe's energy supplier as the Green movement has insisted that power generation be only from natural gas and not coal that Germany has in abundance. Also they forced Germany under Schroeder to phase out the nuclear power generators. Later Schroeder went and worked for Medeyev's Gazprom.

There is a true collusion from the promoters of Global Warming and the Green Movement that has been strangling Europe to work against its own national interests.
The vociferous attack against those that speak out about global warming as a product of human produced CO2 has been very strong and picked up by the liberal left and almost accepted doctrine in the West. Now we are just starting to show the cracks in that movement and science with bad methodology and sensors and cook algorithms.
Now what would be a good idea is to look at the funding of these groups and see if they have been funded or a disinformation campaign by Russia. The timing is right and the interests do coincide.

Russia never stopped working against the US and since we are their competitor on the world stage it is not surprising. Russia has fomented terrorism in Libya from the 1970's and then in Syria and Iraq and Iran. They are also working in South America with Venezuela and Bolivia. So Russia has never stopped the Cold War it just went in different direction and form

Speculation of course. But it rings true. The parts fit. So who is funding AL Gore? And isn't it time McCain dropped his carbon tax ideas?

In any case it also fits with the idea of the Uber Enviros being like Watermelons: Green on the outside Red on the inside. They should be ashamed of themselves. Starting resource wars and all especially in the midst of plenty (at current prices).

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That the uber greens and enviro-nazi's are commies at heart, is like noticing the sky is blue on a clear day. Look no further than the president of the Czech republic, who has publicly "outed" the AGW ideologues as old school commies.

Now, he's from a country where, I think we can all agree, folks would be familiar with the ways of the Reds. Indeed, in his recent electoral victory, one of the issues he rode the hardest was NOT buying into all of the AGW, crypto-commie, idealogy. According to him, it's just another means to the same old totalitarian end........

The Bard said: "A rose by any other name smell just as sweet". Well, something stinks about the latest Russian territory grab..........

Bob Reed   ·  August 17, 2008 10:31 PM

Thanks for the credit. I read at this site also.

I know that Hammer was a tool for USSR and had connections to Al Gore's father. I do not mean to imply that Al Gore is a deliberate conspirator but rather a usefull tool. I do wonder about Hanson though, he has been really the primary push of this global warming caused by CO2 and human and the science is not that strong. But it has become an article of faith that humans are causing climate change rather than just being a small factor.


I do not have a blog but you are welcome to use my posts. I tend to get long because I am interested in the implications rather than making a smart aleck comment.

I had some grammer errors in the post I did not catch in time, so I hope that people will forgive me.

RAH   ·  August 17, 2008 11:49 PM

The US Democratic Party is playing into the hands of every enemy of the US you can possibly think of. Islamic terrorists, Russian imperialists, Chinese hegemonists, Iranian apocalyptics, you name it.

If the voters actually cared enough to see what was happening....but all they know is the messiah is coming to take care of them for life.

Alyssa De Finement   ·  August 18, 2008 12:18 AM

If true, I would expect buffer layers for deniability. Direct threats and payoffs are more effective for keeping people in line, but also create vulnerabilities for those attempting to stay behind the scenes.

The buffer layers - those people who are well-meaning fools (or partly well-meaning people who are too clever for their own good) - can be pried loose if they are convinced that their old ideas are not as good for Mankind as some new ones might be. All the more reason for the science to be rigorous in this matter.

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