Shaviv Applies The Shiv

I was looking at Nir Shaviv's site Science Bits and came across an interesting paragraph.

According to the IPCC (AR4), the solar irradiance is responsible for a net radiative forcing increase between the Maunder Minimum and today of 0.12 W/m2 (0.06 to 0.60 at 90% confidence). We know however that the Maunder minimum was about 1°C colder (e.g., from direct temperature measurements of boreholes - e.g., this summary). This requires a global sensitivity of 1.0/0.12°C/(W/m2). Since doubling the CO2 is thought to induce a 3.8 W/m2 change in the radiative forcing, irradiance/climate correlations require a CO2 doubling temperature of ΔTx2 ~ 31°C !! Besides being at odds with other observations, any sensitivity larger than ΔTx2 ~ 10°C would cause the climate to be unconditionally unstable (see box here).

Clearly, the IPCC scientists don't comprehend that their numbers add up to a totally inconsistent picture. Of course, the real story is that solar forcing, even just the irradiance change, is larger than the IPCC values.

Make sure that you look at the box at Ice Core Truth where he shows that any value for climate sensitivity above 10°C for a doubling of CO2 produces an unconditionally unstable climate. That is the crux of the matter.

Now for a bit of speculation. Why aren't the alarmist numbers internally consistent? I suspect they are cooking the books.

And speaking of books. There is one on that very subject:

Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed

Cross Posted at Power and Control

posted by Simon on 07.31.09 at 09:41 AM





TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://classicalvalues.com/cgi-bin/pings.cgi/8578






Comments

Any global warmmonger who doesn't mention the Sun is either stupid or lying. (yes, I've stopped being polite to them. I don't like evangelicals of an ignorant religion)

It never fails to make me laugh, I'll engage a global warmmonger and ask him about the Sun and he'll act as if I'm the idiot for wanting to discuss the Sun when discussing the temperature of the Earth.

It's funny but dangerous.

And exactly why it's so fitting for The Funniest End of Civilization Ever. (soon with exclamation points!)

Veeshir   ·  July 31, 2009 11:07 AM

I currently reading a very interesting book "Heaven and Earht" by one of Australia's leading scientist's, Ian Plimer. http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/04/23/ian-plimer-heaven-and-earth/
If you want a clear description of the problems with any and all theories that are lumped together as "Anthropomorphic Global Warming," please buy this book. Heavy footnoted, but that just proves the validity of the points that he makes.

cas   ·  July 31, 2009 03:05 PM

Of course they're cooking the books. It's not about CO2 or climate change. It IS all about control.

Like cas above, I'm in the midst of reading Plimer's Heaven and Earth and Dr. Plimer is constantly pointing out that atmospheric CO2 concentration has no connection with global temperature. To insist that it does is flailing a dead horse.

joated   ·  July 31, 2009 07:41 PM

Here is the Amazon link to Plimer:

Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, the Missing Science

M. Simon   ·  July 31, 2009 07:46 PM

Post a comment

You may use basic HTML for formatting.





Remember Me?

(you may use HTML tags for style)


August 2009
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31          

ANCIENT (AND MODERN)
WORLD-WIDE CALENDAR


Search the Site


E-mail



Classics To Go

Classical Values PDA Link



Archives



Recent Entries



Links



Site Credits