Your point is that gays are being persecuted by some Republicans. Throwing out a few quotes from the Bible is not even in the same ball park as proving that.

I'm just quoting the justification used.

If you want to find the whole comment you are going to have to root around. I will not dignify it with a link.

Simon

Perhaps you would prefer Islam to Christian?

Hugh,

Once you have a religious government in a secular state like the USA it is not difficult to switch religions. All the justifications for religious rule will have already been built in.

My thinking is that the Republicans as a party are dead. The "Independent" party is the largest party in the USA and in that lies opportunity.

The Republicans don't do well in a couple of elections and people start diagnosing death. Since Nixon didn't finish off the GOP I think the rumors might be exaggerated.
Citing the number of votes received by any candidate is not a valid argument for or against any view of same sex marriage. It is a splendid example of the fallacy that I think is known as argumentum ad populum.

If the Republican party is dead, then it's the "Christian" right that has killed it. As a libertarian Republican in the Goldwater tradition, I am utterly disgusted at where the Huckabees and LaHayes would lead my party.

In a place where people get to vote on the government they want argumentum ad populum in fact works.

The social conservatives who dominate the Republican party have said: my way or the highway. Well the highway it is then.

Jesus was an enticer, Mohamed was an enforcer. There is a clue there.

What killed the Republican party was it's insistence on courting the evangelical vote.

The evangelicals, by and large, are not "conservative" by any measure a non-religious person would recognize. They really don't seem to care one way or another about fiscal policy, tax policy, or regulation.

They are keen on moral regulation -- which would normally make them a better fit on the left -- but they are anti-abortion. And so the Republicans made the case that the anti-abortion position was the stronger obligation.

And once the evangelicals got in the door, we get nominees like Huckabee, who is progressive in every way except his position on abortion.

And the media now have a template - that all christians are conservative, and all conservatives are christians.

And that just ain't so.

I have no problem with evangelicals. But if they want to be a part of a conservative party, they have to be for limited government above all else. Clearly, the evangelical movement in this country is not in favor of limited government. They just want to use it differently than the non-evangelical progressives.

"In a place where people get to vote on the government they want argumentum ad populum in fact works. " You're confusing a procedural question with a question about soundness of reasoning.
If a vote establishes the truth of a question, why have a blog? Why mess around with mere opinions when the next election will give us the truth?

Hear hear!

It is time to finally abandon economic conservatism and let the country go bankrupt while we argue over what 3% of the population do with their genitals!

snaggletooth,

If the Bible determines truth why bother with reason? Some schizophrenic (the kind that hear voices) wrote some stuff down in a book a very long time ago and now in our exalted state we call that the word of God. Well OK. I'd call it the ravings of a lunatic but, to each his own.

In any case I wasn't arguing reason I was arguing reality. Some times the two do not conform.

Any way how could True Conservatives™ elect such a bad example for President. You know. That Reagan guy. He was an adulterer. He is not going to heaven. And he got married to that fornicating woman after divorcing his first wife. It says so in The Book™. In fact according to the book he is just as bad as those homos.

I remember there was a time when divorced people were if not shunned then held in disrepute. Our moral standards are definitely on the decline.

I blame the printing press and their spawn from hell the dime novel.

Silly Simon :-)

Books are good. It's the internet that is evil. Especially bloggers!

How did the Bible, schizophrenia, fornicating women, who might be "just as bad as those homos", and I guess what is supposed to be some kind of moral high ground because you're, "arguing reality?"
Relax. Slow your roll and try to stay focused on the subject at hand.

snag,

Why just the homos?

Isn't that a tad hypocritical? I think you do not argue in good faith.

Though I don't biblically agree with what the leftist illuminati says about how minorities should be treated better than the mainstream, I do think that the conservatives don't often enough believe in hating the sin, not the sinner