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April 02, 2010
ramping up the war against your toxic thought processes
Yesterday I saw an anonymous piece which appeared in the National Review Online. Titled "Getting Serious About Pornography," the author claims that: -- her husband left her because of pornThis is not a new topic here, as I have addressed the pornography as a drug "erototoxins" issue before, albeit somewhat facetiously. Perhaps now I should take the title of the NRO piece to heart and get serious, but yesterday was April Fools Day, and nothing was being taken seriously here. Plus, what if the NRO had been joking? I wouldn't have wanted to look like a clueless idiot by taking their joke seriously, because when you take something seriously that the proponent meant it as a joke, then you get caught up in cycles of ridiculousness, and you end up looking ridiculously clueless. When I emailed M. Simon a link to this, he was quick to suspect something was up with the timing. He emailed me back, saying, I sent NR a bit of my mind on the subject:I don't think he heard back (correct me if I am wrong, OK?), and I am sorry to report that it does indeed appear that in all probability the NRO and the author of the piece were deadly serious. Anyway, because this isn't a new issue and I don't like repeating myself (or engaging in fruitless debates which convince no one), I might have ignored the piece entirely, but then I saw Dr. Helen's very thoughtful PJM post on the matter. She takes issue with "the insinuation that porn is to blame for an entire generation not being able to form lasting marriages and that it is damaging families and leading to rape and every other kind of ill in society" when the data show otherwise, and (noting that the husband ran off with another woman and not a magazine) expresses skepticism over whether pornography was the real culprit. The author of the article thinks that she lost her husband due to "porn" (he ran off with another woman). She mentions a number of reports that point to porn's "harmful effects," such as one released by the Witherspoon Institute. "The Social Costs of Pornography" claims that pornography has negative effects on individuals and society. The ominous video on the report's website, however, makes me wonder what its real motive is. Perhaps it's controlling the sexuality of males?Well, it is certainly about control. The author wants government hearings and taxpayer-funded scientific studies with a view towards doing something about pornography. Dr. Helen's conclusion shows that the author omits the full picture while blaming porn for things it does not cause, and warns about the danger of government intervention: ...although Anonymous suggests that porn viewership leads to rape, rape rates are plummeting even as porn becomes more pervasive.Aside from the fact that "Anonymous's" piece made me worry about whether the NRO agrees with it, what most disturbed me the most was the author's advocacy of government intervention. Coupled with her contention that pornography is a drug, what are the implications? Should the war on drugs be expanded to include this new "drug"? Or should pornography now be regulated by the FDA? She claims that pornography is a "narcotic" which hides behind the First Amendment: Consider a narcotic so insidious that it evades serious scientific study and legislative action for decades, thriving instead under the ever-expanding banner of the First Amendment.Calling "it" a drug is a quantum leap in logic -- totally aside from First Amendment considerations. Pornography can consist of books, pictures, or moving images, and unlike a drug like, say, heroin or aspirin, it cannot be expected to have the sort of scientifically predictable pharmacological effects on human beings that drugs do. It's highly individualized. There is straight, gay, bi porn, S&M porn, fetishistic porn, etc. There are people who are not turned on at all by porn. Others (like yours truly) who just shrug their shoulders. Besides, it just so happens that I am more easily aroused by text than by images, but to call such text an addictive drug is simply preposterous, and insults my intelligence as well as my imagination. By the way, some women like porn; as one commenter to Dr. Helen's post said, Speaking of myths about porn, am I the only one disheartened that this whole conversation can happen and nobody debunks the idea that only Men enjoy it? Many women also enjoy pornography; either by themselves, or watching it with their partner. We've made the social price for Women enjoying porn so high that we've put it in the closet because the Male is (by long standing mythology) the sex craved horndog and the Female is the forever recipient of his advances. This view of course hurts both men and women.I have known women who loved porn, and used it for sex enhancement. So what? Were they addicted too? I'm very skeptical about the idea of showing people porn and pronouncing it a "drug" simply because changes are detected in their brain scans. I'm sure that showing them anything that gets their sexual attention would work the same way (including text). Moreover, I'd be willing to bet that a guy who gets turned on by a sexy pair of legs in a video might get just as turned on by a sexy pair of legs walking down the street. So, should "provocative" attire also be considered an "addictive drug"? What is that an argument for? Veiling women? If the idea is that the First Amendment should not protect things that excite the brain, what are the implications for other texts and images that excite people -- like "hate speech" or, say, Muhammad cartoons? Suppose you were able to corral some radical fundamentalist Islamic terrorists, strap them down, hook them up to a brain scanner while prying their eyes open, and then forced them to stare at offensive images of their pbuh prophet. I am sure a lot of excitement would occur in certain areas of the brain. Does that mean controversial images are drugs too? Why not? Anyway, I know I've talked about this before, but whether you like porn or not, I think the idea of treating it as a drug is absolutely beyond the pale. And if science determines that certain forms of speech are like drugs, if that's an argument for anything it might be an argument in favor of offering more and better "drugs" to counter the alleged ill-effects of the first drugs. Fight speech with more speech. But the anti-porn crowd wouldn't like that, because just as the anti-drug people want to control what goes into your body, anti-porn activists want to control what goes into your mind. While I have long seen the war on porn as a war on the First Amendment, this new meme ups the ante substantially by introducing a noxious new concept that outside images should be regulated not merely because they are "immoral," but because they have an effect on the brain. To my mind, that's Orwellian thinking. What goes on inside my brain is my business. posted by Eric on 04.02.10 at 12:09 PM
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This: A few things we can do: 1. Criminalize all video depictions of sex, amateur and for profit here: http://oregonfaithreport.com/2010/03/debate-over-social-cost-of-pronography/ was designed to see if I could get a rise out of them. Just so that anyone who does not know me understands. M. Simon · April 2, 2010 04:37 PM And a little soft core from Oregon Faith: http://oregonwomensreport.com/2010/04/another-anemic-model-ad/ M. Simon · April 2, 2010 04:59 PM Excellent advice! I would only offer one addition: 6. Ensure that SWAT Teams are routinely deployed for all porn war enforcement! Eric Scheie · April 2, 2010 05:11 PM I cant help myself. They are going after tanning beds: http://oregonwomensreport.com/2010/03/new-restrictions-on-tanning-beds/ So I left this: I don't think this goes nearly far enough. Vacations to Caribbean Islands with stays of over 2 hours need to be heavily taxed. And we need to be policing the dress code as well. No one should be allowed to wear shorts or short sleeved garments out doors. Faces need to be masked for protection. Swim suits should only be allowed in indoor swimming pools. And resorts should not be allowed to have any kind of lounge chairs out doors. Those should be limited to indoor pools as well. ==== They seem to be a bunch of real nannys. M. Simon · April 2, 2010 05:14 PM What goes on inside my brain is my business. Where have you been? Veeshir · April 2, 2010 09:44 PM Dr. James Dobson interviewed Ted Bundy the week before his execution. Ted blamed pornography for his crimes. Really. Jabba the Tutt · April 3, 2010 09:45 AM I blame his law school! Eric Scheie · April 3, 2010 11:08 AM At least some conservatives thought this was stupid. Doug · April 3, 2010 11:16 PM Post a comment
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The NRO article was dated 31 March 4AM.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/50_scholars_report_on_destructive_nature_of_pornography/
Just has an excerpt fron NRO.
http://www.socialcostsofpornography.org/
is from The Witherspoon Institute:
http://winst.org/index.php
They have a book:
The Social Costs of Pornography: A Statement of Findings and Recommendations
And a DVD:
The Social Costs of Pornography: A Consultation
They have a statement:
http://www.winst.org/family_marriage_and_democracy/social_costs_of_pornography/project.php
Which reads in part (emphasis mine:
The sale of pornography over the Internet is now thought to be a billion-dollar industry in America, and the decision of the Supreme Court to protect it as free speech means that America is identified across the world as the heart of the pornographic culture, a fact not unconnected with the growing anti-Americanism of Islamic countries. A few futile attempts are made to protect children, but these attempts cannot withstand the tide of permissiveness. In a culture in which pornography is permitted to flourish, and is, indeed, sold in respectable shops and marketed by respectable hotel chains, children cannot be insulated even from its direct effects, much less its indirect ones.
I left this message:
A few things we can do:
1. Criminalize all video depictions of sex, amateur and for profit
2. Cut off all internet connection with countries that make pornography freely available on the Internet
3. Eliminate search and seizure protections for pornography
4. We spend about $100 billion a year in America policing drugs. We need to spend at least twice that on policing pornography.
5. Add a $5,000 per unit tax on all electronic devices made for recording images and video including cell phones to discourage amateur production of this filth.
here:
http://oregonfaithreport.com/2010/03/debate-over-social-cost-of-pronography/