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May 10, 2009
Virginity Balls
I was reading the reviews at Amazon and came across one about the book The Wisdom of Whores: Bureaucrats, Brothels, and the Business of AIDS Pisani has no patience for distraction, a major one being that AIDS is a gender / development / poverty issue. Pisani shows that this liberal idea, favored by a lot of NGOs and UN agencies and other donors is a distraction. First, it's a distraction because first, you may have the causality wrong (AIDS causes development / gender issues rather than the other way around), second, as shown in the book, even in Africa, that's not always the case, and third, because, again, that gets in the way of common sense prevention which should be the main focus, along with treatment for the already infected population. But again, focusing on women and children makes the AIDS issue more palatable to donors than those filthy whores, junkies and fags, so, Pisani and her colleagues at the AIDS Mafia, as she calls them, played that game too. After all, once you have the money, you can still get stuff done.The term Virginity Ball is a new one to me and I was imagining some kind of modern day chastity belt. But that is not at all what Virginity Balls are about. So let us take a look at the wiki and see if we can learn something. A purity ball (also known as a father-daughter purity ball or purity wedding) is a formal event attended by fathers and their daughters. Purity balls promote virginity until marriage for teenage girls, and are often closely associated with U.S. Christian churches, particularly fundamentalist churches. Typically, daughters who attend make a virginity pledge; a pledge to remain sexually abstinent until marriage. Fathers who attend pledge to protect what they view as their young daughters' "purity" of mind, body and soul. Proponents promote a strong father-daughter relationship as a means to affirm what they consider to constitute spiritual and physical "purity".Well that is a little strange. Unless you know that the tree of knowledge that the serpent enticed Adam and Eve to eat from was not an apple tree. It was a fig tree. And what is that symbolism about? The fig looks like the genitalia of some females. Funny thing is that Eve ate the fig first. Kinky girl. Or as the cruder males among us might say. "Lesbians. Wooo Hooo!" But you know that Adam had to be one popular guy. He ate figs. The meaning is reinforced by two of the Ten Commandments. Commandment Seven says, "Do not commit adultery." And that is further reinforced by Commandment Ten, "Do not covet your neighbor's wife." So what is the meaning of all this? I think the Biblical context is that carnal knowledge can lead to social and ultimately physical disaster for nomadic tribes living on the margin. One social mistake - arousal of jealousy for instance - can destroy tribal unity and lead to starvation and/or murder. And in those days the rape of a daughter or even consensual - but unapproved sex - can destroy the tribal harmony necessary for survival. Daughters were property (even more so than male children) and needed to be protected to maintain their value. In cases of rape a traumatized daughter is going to be a large burden on the tribe and not an asset. Which is why cultures that are not far from the tribal state still do things like honor killings of raped females. The woman is officially made as guilty as the rapists because there was not enough wealth to deal with even potential problems. Harsh law. To go along with the harsh necessities of survival on the margins. The thing is. We no longer (most of us any way) live on the margins. We can carry a lot of dead weight without catastrophic harm to our economics (just look at our government for proof of that. Although the new guy looks to be doing his best to introduce catastrophe). So the rules were changed (slowly). Murder for adultery was no longer necessary for tribal and intertribal harmony. Cities had different advantageous rule sets than those required for nomadic tribes. The first harbinger of that cultural change came some 2000 years ago. It seems nuts to go back to the old ways where the tribe was more important than the individual. So the Purity Balls seem to be a throwback. However, you also have to consider genetics. Culture can change rather rapidly (a few hundred years even in times of slow communications) while genetics takes longer. And the rule of genetics is that humans are "designed" to get their genes reproduced. And having strange men impregnate your wife is not conducive to that. We see the remnants of that in our laws which consider catching a guy with your wife grounds for leniency in murder cases. Our genes are the product of many millenia of killing rapists and adulterers. And until our genes change enough there will be pockets of culture that are throwbacks to distant ages. Cross Posted at Power and Control posted by Simon on 05.10.09 at 01:05 PM
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A fig tree? An apple tree? The type of fruit isn't ever mentioned in Genesis (or anywhere in scripture). I can see why a fig tree might have significant metaphorical meaning, but it's only because we're adding it into the story. Just a little point, that's all. Pope Linus · May 10, 2009 02:46 PM But again, focusing on women and children makes the AIDS issue more palatable to donors In Western countries, of course it does. If AIDS only affected men AIDS wouldn't be an "issue" at all, it would be ignored. Bob Smith · May 10, 2009 03:55 PM It is not just a disaster for the community. Men being what they are and human nature being what it is - young men are often looking for and actively chasing after a different sort of relationship from what young women want. Young women in a big city are often pretty bitter and cynical by 25. They are through a dozen pump and dump guys who do their very best to seem sincere. somehow I don't think the guys are suffering quite the same. Saying the girls should enjoy themselves just like the guys misses that they may have different needs, wants and goals. Doug_S · May 10, 2009 10:15 PM "Saying the girls should enjoy themselves just like the guys misses that they may have different needs, wants and goals." I would say female is an internal experience whereas male is external; the female body is simply not made to endure multiple sex partners within close proximity to one another. Females have an internal biological mechanism in place to be able to absorb external components, however when her immune system is overloaded with too many conflicting variables all at once her immune system is weakened making her susceptible to disease hence the 1 in 4 females between the age of 12 to 19 are infected with one or multiple forms of STDs (not AIDS) Males are more susceptible to AIDS because they do not have such immunity system found in the females juice. One reason why AIDS is predominate in African females is due to their cultural practice of drying out their vagina with various products such vinegar and certain herbs because African males like the virginal feeling of a tight vagina. One reason why AIDS primarily affected American homosexual males rather than It is the 'wetness' the females produces which protects her from many sexually-transmitted diseases, however if she takes in too many different sperm in close proximity her natural defense mechanisms within her natural wetness breaks-down thus leaving her vulnerable to disease. Condoms are obviously not the answer since anyone having sex understands that as soon as the condom interferes with the sensitivity factor off comes the condom. NYC gives condoms for free yet it has STDs rate higher than the national average. If we're going talk about sex let us be honest with our nature.
syn · May 11, 2009 11:10 AM As to the type of tree. Jewish tradition holds that it is a fig tree. The Sistine Secrets: Michelangelo's Forbidden Messages in the Heart of the Vatican From a review of the above: Actually, the Bible records the fruit only as that, a fruit, and almost every Biblically-literate person believes the tree to have been a fig because (a) apples are relatively rare in the Middle East, and, more tellingly, (b) Adam and Eve immediately cover themselves with, you guessed it, fig leaves. Now if by "it is hard to imagine any Christian being aware of this" the authors mean that the Midrash mentions a fig tree, they may be right,.... A link to the review: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1724DDW88PG9K
M. Simon · May 11, 2009 11:52 AM As to the "pump and dump" problem. It is a case of scarce men and plentiful women. Under those conditions you get Girls Gone Wild. http://www.issues.org/13.2/courtw.htm And why is that? Human nature. When men are scarce the competition between women heats up. M. Simon · May 11, 2009 12:16 PM "Unless you know that the tree of knowledge that the serpent enticed Adam and Eve to eat from was not an apple tree. It was a fig tree" In The White Goddess, Robert Graves speculates, on complex mytho-poetic grounds, that it must have been a quince. HMI · May 11, 2009 05:05 PM HMI, I'm going with the Jewish Tradition. After all it is their book. Besides. I like eating figs. M. Simon · May 11, 2009 05:41 PM Further on "pump and dump". The smart younger women go for older men who have tired of pump and dump. M. Simon · May 13, 2009 06:07 AM |
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by Elizabeth Pisani that I found rather interesting.
Part of Adam's sin is that he knew what the Serpent was doing but stood by and did nothing to intervene between him and Eve. So he, not Eve, was the first sinner. It seems these purity balls are designed to avoid that first sin between fathers and daughters (fathers ignoring the dangers of pre-marital sex by their daughters).
In addition, there may not be a significant economic cost to pre-marital sex (although Bill Cosby might beg to differ), there is a very high individual cost to young women--disease, unwed pregnancy, emotional trauma, etc.
Finally, for a Christian, these Biblical commandments weren't handed down to save the souls of the tribe, but for the individual. They are teachings which are primarily intended to instruct the individual on how to live holy, productive, prosperous, and happy lives.
Do you honestly think that chastity before marriage somehow harms a young woman while pre-marital sex provides some important benefit that outweighs its potential harm?