"God-DAMN those pit bull owners"

Rachel Lucas likes Cesar Millan, aka the Dog Whisperer. And she recently used his techiques to ward off an ill-trained pit bull which some bratty kids were unable to control. She stopped what could have been a tragedy for all concerned, and none of the dogs were seriously hurt.

Good for her. I'm glad Millan's techniques worked, and I'm glad she and her dogs are OK. The people whose pit bull was off the leash give the breed a bad name.

As evidenced by this comment:

God-DAMN those pit bull owners. I fucking hate, hate, hate them. And don't tell me that it's not the dog's fault, man. I fucking KNOW that, stoner. It's just that that breed attracts those kind of tatooed idiot who wants his dog to project his 'toughness'. And they get a pit bull, and they can't handle it, or be bothered to train it, and it starts busting up the neighborhood pets owned by the local gentry.

We had one in our dog's first obedience training last year. Totally psychotic. Attacked any man, woman, child, or dog within 2 meters. The owner, a nice blonde lady, was trying to 'rescue' it from the pound. Needless to say, we left after telling the trainer that he had no business mixing that damaged canine in with other puppies. He said it was for socialization. Funny how we didn't want our pup torn up to rehab that monster. Wonder how the blonde looks with 4 puncture marks on the arm.

Want more? I just met one of our local assholes with a puppy on a fucking choke chain. Typical pit bull owner, tattoos, chin pubes, and hair that looked like a gorilla jacked off on it to get it spikey.

He was sooo proud that his brand new pit bull puppy was so tough that it needed a choke chain. At 8 weeks. I expect that the poor dog will have a permanent wheeze the next time we meet it. That, and a psychotic desire to attack my Shiloh Shepherd.

And the female that attacked Rachel was lactating. that means the owners are breeding her. Any bets on how thoroughly they researched the stud? How many generations they want back to check for inbreeding, line breeding, cross breeding, coefficient of (genetic) incidence?

What am I saying, any bets on whether they even tested the bitch for genetic defects known to the breed? Nope. It was just, hey, your male looks tough, let's mate them while we drink beer. We can sell the puppies for a bundle.

God, I wish my state had open carry laws. I'd target the pit bull second.

Target the pit bull? Not because there's anything wrong with the breed (oh no!), but merely because you think the breed attracts tatooed idiots you don't like?

I wish "Hound of Doom" (the pit bull hate commenter) would take a look at this picture of Cesar Millan:

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Don't you just f--king hate, hate, hate him?

God-DAMN those pit bull owners!

You want to target his dogs?

Don't you just f--king hate, hate, hate me too?

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Want to target Coco too? You'll have to target me first, I'm afraid.

Because pit bull owners are all, you know, scummy tattooed psycho animal abusers like me with the chin pubes, hair that looks like a gorilla jacked off on it to get it spikey, etc.

And we're all bad people who should be targeted, because the good Mr. Hound of Doom says so.

Sigh.

I try to be polite and I'm 100% in favor of free speech, but sometimes it's hard to be polite.

MORE: I didn't realize it, but Cesar Millan has a web page devoted to fun facts and famous pit bills, and says:

"My kids are around pit bulls every day. In the '70s they blamed Dobermans, in the '80s they blamed German shepherds, in the '90s they blamed the Rottweiler. Now they blame the pit bull."
I've been watching this orchestrated campaign of anti-pit bull bigotry evolve since the mid 70s, and I've never seen anything quite like it.

UPDATE: I should hasten to add something that should be obvious to anyone who reads this blog, which is that I do not consider Rachel Lucas responsible in any way for the commenter's words, any more than I am responsible for mine.

(I just couldn't ignore the comment, though.)

posted by Eric on 04.18.08 at 05:25 PM





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Worse: Pomeranian owners. With their reddish-brownish hair done just so, their makeup and sweaters. The owners, that is.

[shivers]

They give me the creeps.

Loren Heal   ·  April 18, 2008 06:06 PM

Y'know, there are an awful lot of pit bull owners who do fit the commenter's stereotype. If there was some way of getting rid of those pit-bull owners, I'd be all for it. Though people like that who are irresponsible with other breeds ought also be prevented from having dogs.

My (wife's) dog gets mistaken for a pit-bull, and *may* be part pit-bull. But the biggest danger she poses to people is that she might lick them to death. In her middle age, she's getting more crotchety around other dogs; if it gets worse, we may go back to obedience school.

Anthony   ·  April 18, 2008 07:30 PM

I know two different Pit Bull owners. These dogs are extremely well trained and socialized with humans. Indeed, both dogs love little children. Neither dog will deliberately attack unless one of the family is threatened. Case in point, the wife of one of my friends was walking Bruno late at night. She was approached by a strange man while Bruno was doing his business just inside a clump of trees. As the stranger kept approaching, Bruno finished his business and then came out and sat between my friends wife and the stranger. The stranger immediately turned around and quickly left the area. The next day, the man was arrested for committing a rape in the same apartment complex earlier.

SeniorD   ·  April 19, 2008 08:05 AM

My Doberman Susie (Koehler-method trained) walked off lead on heel all over with me. I have found that people you'd prefer not to meet cross the street first to avoid meeting you.

I put it down to the bad reputation that such breeds have among their social peers, where dog training is done by teasing until the dog is insane, the form of toughness they prefer.

So it's bad for the breed's reputation, but works in your favor once in a while.

Ron Hardin   ·  April 19, 2008 10:46 AM

You might feel bad for being tarred with the same brush as irresponsible pitbull owners, but that is the way it goes. Unfortunately, I've met far more of the owner she describes than those resembling you or Cesar Milan.
I lived in Germany for over a decade, and on the whole there is a very noticeable difference between the way the Germans train and handle their dogs and the way an unfortunately very visible number of Americans do the same. Maybe it has something to do with the culture and atitudes that mark the two societies, but Germans really put out an effort to train their dogs to be out in public, and well behaved at home, and are almost embarassed by failure..

SFC SKI   ·  April 19, 2008 12:43 PM

As the committed owner of Springer Spaniels, I am not sure that I am a big fan of pit bulls. My sister-in-law, who is a vet, has had them, though, and she's a fan.

My own view is that a big part of the problem is the name. "Pit Bull." It just does not sound friendly. The whole species needs a re-branding.

Precedent? Well, the popular restaurant fish "Orange Roughy" is the re-branded name of the New Zealand Slimehead, which you have never heard of and would not order off a menu. The name was everything.

TigerHawk   ·  April 19, 2008 02:19 PM

Good comments all, and appreciated. The thing is, I don't think I fit the stereotype, but I nonetheless get a lot of dirty looks when I walk "pit bulls" even though they're always under my control and I always obey leash laws. This makes me think the prejudice is in fact against the dogs, not based entirely on perceptions of the owners as unkempt, slobbering tattooed yahoos.

Of course I recognize that not everyone likes these dogs, and people have a right to think whatever they want about me. What set me off here was not so much being "tarred with the same brush as irresponsible pitbull owners," as seeing someone express a desire to shoot me and my dog with the same gun.

I realize people have a deep seated need to hate someone, but when a lynch mob mentality sets it, it's more than a little disconcerting.

Eric Scheie   ·  April 20, 2008 11:25 AM

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xcoiqn nxfa   ·  May 1, 2008 11:48 PM

Although I didn't appreciate all the language that person put in their post, there is some truth to what was being said. The pit bull itself can be a very sweet, inoffensive dog. But there seems to be a particular demographic, around where I live at least, that gives the dog and the good owners like yourself a bad name. Kind of like Michael Vick. He is a BAD OWNER. There are rednecks all over the place that specialize in the same type of environments for the poor dogs. So I would be more apt to focus my energies on trying to make sure this breed gets adopted into loving, nurturing hands than worry to much about the demeanor of the writer.

Sean Hoffman   ·  May 2, 2008 11:11 AM

Although I didn't appreciate all the language that person put in their post, there is some truth to what was being said. The pit bull itself can be a very sweet, inoffensive dog. But there seems to be a particular demographic, around where I live at least, that gives the dog and the good owners like yourself a bad name. Kind of like Michael Vick. He is a BAD OWNER. There are rednecks all over the place that specialize in the same type of environments for the poor dogs. So I would be more apt to focus my energies on trying to make sure this breed gets adopted into loving, nurturing hands than worry to much about the demeanor of the writer.

Sean Hoffman   ·  May 2, 2008 11:11 AM

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