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September 18, 2007
taking away rights and calling it a "right"
Quick question: What is health care? I guess the answer isn't quite as simple as the question. What is health? The state of not being sick? The state of being well, or getting well? Because of the nature of humanity there is no right to be well or get well, so in that sense there can be no right to health. So, the words "health care" in the context of "right to health care" must refer to a right to attempt to be well, or to stay well. Obviously, there are many ways to attempt to stay well. But don't we all have the right to attempt to do whatever we can do? As soon as I finish writing this post, I plan to run my three miles; not because I want to (I usually hate running, in fact), but because I have this caretaker inside me that makes me do it -- the idea being that if I do it, I'll be healthier than if I didn't do it. So, isn't my running a form of health care? Do I have a right to it? Of course. It's part of my right to be alive, and I have as much of a right to run as I do to eat and breathe. But the left uses the word "right" in a different way. What Hillary means by the "right" to health care means that I would have a right to have other people pay if I can't afford it. This is absurd, and (I believe) unconstitutional. Not only does the federal government lack power to do it, but it violates the most basic notions of fairness, as well as personal conscience. Let's stick with my example of running as a way of taking care of my health. Do I have the "right" to do that even when there's snow and ice on the ground and it is impossible or unhealthy to run outside? Well, maybe, but I'd have to either buy a treadmill or find an indoor track. These things cost money, though, and while I think I have a right to pay for them, do I have a right to compel other people to pay for them? It's my health care, isn't it? Eating healthy food is also health care; do I have a "right" to have other people pay for that too? Or are these things not health care? Surely, they're of as much value as a regular visit to the doctor even though there's nothing wrong with me. But the reason I run or visit the doctor is ultimately to prolong (extend) my life. It's a death avoidance scheme. Yet we all die, without exception. The extent that we manage to put it off, whether by exercise, eating properly, driving carefully, not touching high voltage lines, visiting the doctor, all these things and more affect how long we will live. Because they improve the quality of life, they might also be called self improvement. Obviously, we all want to avoid death, and we would all like to improve the quality of our lives. On what basis does medical care qualify above and beyond everything else we might do, as a special "right" (a word which is being misused) for which other people should have to pay? Try as I might, I can't see Hillary's mandatory health care plan as anything other than a requirement that everyone who can afford it must pay for the medical care of everyone else. What is really crazy is the way it's being likened to auto insurance: Joking that her proposals "won't make me the insurance industry's woman of the year," Clinton said companies would no longer be able to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions or genetic predisposition to certain illnesses.I don't know how typical it is, but here in Pennsylvania, there is no insurance required to get a drivers license; rather, the cars must be insured. I could let a driver with no insurance drive my car, and my insurance would cover him if he had an accident. But even if everyone had to have insurance to get a license, the idea of mandatory auto insurance is to protect the driving public in the event of accidents. Compelling someone to have insurance before getting behind the wheel of a car is reasonable, because driving is a hazardous activity which requires testing and individual accountabilty, as well as a privilege which can be taken away for any number of reasons. Auto insurance is not given away free to the poor at everyone else's expense. No one has any right to drive, nor does anyone have to drive. It is always possible to ride with another driver, use alternate transportation, or walk. Thus, the comparison between being licensed to drive and the mere state of being alive is inapt, even absurd. But compelling someone to have health insurance, simply because he is alive? Again, what is health? What is sick? We know what auto insurance is for. Cars hit each other, causing property damage, personal injuries, and death. But what is health care? Anyone who thinks this comes down to common sense should think again. Suppose I have a sore throat. Do I have to go to the doctor? What if I fall down and sprain my leg? Suppose I develop ugly warts and want them removed. Or what if I just feel bad and don't know what is wrong with me? Don't I have the option of going to the doctor or not? What if I just don't want the hassle, or want to save money? Or suppose I'm so crazy that I experienced a really severe injury, like a gunshot wound, and just decided to treat it myself. Don't I have the right to not go to the doctor; to not have health care? If I don't have to go to the doctor, by what right does society have a right to make me (and everyone else) pay for what I do not want? Then there's the coverage issue. What if I only want a major medical, catastrophic coverage type of policy which won't pay for ordinary health care. Shouldn't I be allowed to pay for less if I use less? And if so, then why shouldn't I be allowed to pay for none and use none? There's also a distinction I think is lost between the right to health care and the right to insurance. They are not the same thing. There already is a right to emergency health care. No hospital in the United States is allowed to refuse emergency care, but if something is not an emergency, then what right can there be to obtain care for it? The idea that someone has a right to see a doctor for a sore throat (and have that paid for by everyone else including people who refuse to see a doctor for a sore throat), it seems to me that this violates the human conscience. There are other matters involving conscience. Should religious opponents of abortion have to pay for abortion-related health care? What about Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists, and people who disagree with the allopathic approach to medicine? Is there a right to see a shaman? The answers aren't staring at me, but the two things that bother me the most are the mandatory nature of this, and the deception involved in calling something like health care a "right." Health care may be many things, but it is not a right. Not the way they're talking about it here. It's mandatory nature makes it a duty. All who can pay, must pay. Whether they need it or want it for themselves or not, they must pay for those who can't. That's the real idea here. Why can't they just admit that this is socialism? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need: In her plan, Clinton said families would receive tax credits to help pay for coverage. The tax credit would be designed to limit the premiums to a percentage of a family's income.Or, as Hillary likes to call it, a "choice": She would let the uninsured buy into two existing government insurance programs or buy private insurance, offer them financial help in paying premiums, and help small businesses cover their employees.Nothing like making what was once a choice mandatory while claiming that the result is a "choice." I agree with NewsBusters that this is Orwellian. It's easy to say that people who vote for her will get what they deserve. What about the rest of the country? The only right I want is the right to opt out -- a right I still have. What hurts more than losing a right is to be told that losing it constitutes a "right." MORE: I guess we should be grateful that Hillary isn't proposing a "right to work" along the same lines. (All people would work! And all not currently employed would have to go to work for the state!) UPDATE (09/19/07): Here's Jacob Laksin: ...the new Clinton plan should make even a first-year economics student wince. For instance, Clinton proposes massive regulation of the insurance industry as means to "end discrimination" against those with pre-existing health problems. Aside from exaggerating the insurance industry's sins in this regard -- industry representatives say that that insurance companies reject only about 3 percent of claims, many of them for experimental procedures -- it also increases government regulation, and thus government's inefficient reach, into healthcare. An analogous flaw underlies Clinton's plan to compel drug companies to "offer fair prices." Instead of letting the free-market operate, the federal government will become the arbiter of fairness. One need only recall the disastrous price and wage controls of the seventies to see how well this will turn out. posted by Eric on 09.18.07 at 05:01 PM
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Earnest, People get medical care in America. Money or no. So you are bankrupted by the cost? Death is better? I don't see a problem with people paying for what they get. Or at least all they can afford plus a little extra. I have been bankrupted by the medical costs of one of my family members. I'm quite OK with my poverty because those I love are alive. It is my lot in life and I'm content with it. And I am eternally grateful to those who have helped shoulder a burden I was unable to carry myself. Health care a right? I don't think so. If it becomes a right it takes away the reciprocal moral obligations that must go with any unearned help. It is not just the economics. M. Simon · September 18, 2007 10:05 PM If this only involved catastrophic care, that I could understand. But it's the nickel and dime, go-to-the-doctor-for-sniffles stuff which would ultimately bankrupt the country. There's also a question of fairness; I don't go to the doctor for small stuff, and I don't see why I should have to pay for people who would. And they would. It's human nature. Remember, there is already free emergency care for those who cannot afford it. Eric Scheie · September 18, 2007 10:15 PM Due to our educational system, alot of citizens don't know they already have "rights" and that they are not granted to them by the federal gov't. Mrs. Clinton plays on this by saying she is going to "give" people the right to healthcare. She is the grantor of rights, not your creator. The word "rights" now means "free". Real rights don't cost anything but they certinally not free. Gregory · September 19, 2007 07:13 PM Post a comment
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In general, I am against socialized medicine and more government meddling in health care...
But...
I do believe that it is reasonable for the government to do something to make sure that people who are subject to catastrophic medical costs, especially through no fault of their own, are not either left to die or completely bankrupted by their condition.
In a totally free market system, someone who was born with a serious condition would never be able to get insurance. Their parents would have to pay for their expensese out of pocket.
Likewise, if someone is seriously injured by either a totally unforseen accident or by someone who has no money, or even by a serious and unpredictable illness, I would like to see that they are taken care of somehow.
The first category probably isn't "insurance" in the sense that the event has already happened. The second event is insurance in the sense that it's a random event that strikes some people in a group.
As a society, I believe that we should provide health care for those who just can't afford it for whatever reason and that we should not let people die. I'm willing to use the power of government to spread the cost around.
On the other hand, what you are talking about is more like general medical care, such as regular office visits, normal medications, etc... Even on that, though, I'm not sure I'm willing to tell the truly indigent to get stuffed if they can't afford medications and/or medical procedures.
Before we start socializing medicine, though, I'd rather see some basic, simple reforms made to the existing system. First of all, I'd like to unlink employment from insurance. Right now, there are incentives for businesses to provide insurance. All salaries are reduced to account for the fact that companies pay for insurance. If I opt-out, I don't get that deduction back. I'd like to see any incentives (tax credits/deductions/etc..) either eliminated or reverted to the individual. This would eliminate a lot of the goofy situations where someone is afraid to change jobs because of a totally unrelated health condition.
Once we do that, it wouldn't be very difficult to do with health insurance something similar to what we do with auto-insurance. Allow health insurance companies to offer whatever plans they want at whatever prices they want but provide (either directly through the government via a medicaid/medicare/whatever system or through an allotement to insurance companies) a minimum/catastrophic type coverage for people who can't afford a more featured plan (or who just want a bare bones plan because they are young and healthy).
While the libertarian in me wants to let people opt out, the fact is that anyone who needs emergency care can (and should) get treatment. If they don't have the money, then someone ends up paying. I'd rather make them get at least emergency care insurance so that the costs are accounted for in the system.
While not a libertarian for free-market plan, the above would likely increase the competition for insurance and hopefully make things better than they are now. Everything I suggest is off the top of my head, so I certainly wouldn't advocate implementing it as is without more study.
Hmm... what I wrote sounds kind of like what the Democrats are advocating, but somehow I believe that they would end up implementing a very different system than I would...
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