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July 20, 2006
Where's George? And where's Doug?
My previous post about the much-quoted "George Harleigh" (said to be a SIU political science professor who worked for Nixon and Reagan administrations) has received enough attention that I thought it merited a new post. Clayton Cramer linked my original post and asked his readers for help in locating the mystery man. According to readers who've checked the relevant academic databases, there's nothing. Anywhere: There's nothing by "George Harleigh" on EBSCOHost Academic Search Premiere, either.To which Cramer comments: Amazing--someone became a professor at Southern Illinois University without a single published work, anywhere!Well, not according to the SIU Department of Political Science. (When I called the department, I was told the list of emeritus professors goes from Hargraves to Harlow.) Philadelphia journalist Steve Silver has linked this post and is also asking questions about George Harleigh: Calls by the blogger to SIU, and searches of Lexus-Nexis for published material by him, find no mention of Harleigh, and he's not mentioned on Google anywhere other than in providing quotes to blogs. Anyone ever heard of this guy, and have any evidence that exists or did exist? I'm figuring either he's real and everyone's wrong, or someone just made him up and his same few quotes have been recycled again and again for years, or there's some guy out there claiming to be a disgruntled former Nixon/Reagan aide.There are serious logical problems posed by any attempt to prove conclusively that a person does not (or did not) exist. No matter how many searches fail to prove the existence of someone, that failure does not negate the person's possible existence. However, when a specific person's specific occupation or background are made relevant as they are here, it is possible to disprove such a person's occupation or background, simply by the absence of official records. (For example, if someone claims to be a Navy SEAL, that claim can be verified or debunked, and there are websites devoted to doing just that.) The burden of proof, though, normally falls on those asserting that the person exists. In the case of George Harleigh, virtually all quotations and references to him originate with Doug Thompson, a self-described journalist ["newspaperman"] who runs the Capitol Hill Blue web site. Which means at this point that the burden is on Mr. Thompson to supply evidence: If "George Harleigh" is a pseudonym, that fact should be disclosed, and if there is a person calling himself "George Harleigh" whose remarks are being repeated, it falls on Doug Thompson to provide some evidence that this man is who he says he is. Under the circumstances, until I hear otherwise, I think it is entirely reasonable to conclude that: Again, if my suspicions turn out to be wrong, I'll certainly acknowledge that with apologies to Doug Thompson and George Harleigh. MORE: According to blogger Angry Bear, three years ago Doug Thompson admitted that he had been conned for the last 20 years by someone named "Terry Wilkinson": The Capitol Hill Blue story cited below is a hoax--Capitol Hill Blue founder Doug Thompson now alleges that he was intentionally deceived by someone pretending to be Terry Wilkinson for the last 20 years (Thompson: "Erasing the stories doesn't erase the fact that we ran articles containing information that, given the source, was probably inaccurate. And it doesn't erase the sad fact that my own arrogance allowed me to be conned").The problem is, the Thompson site link does not discuss the Terry Wilkinson "conning" incident. But that's because the references were erased. Another post has the full quote about the "erasures," plus more from Doug Thompson: If that is the case, then why were these words edited out of the post in question? Another post here -- same thing, Doug Thompson's apology from nowhere. Text of original CHB apology from cache of dysfunctional Truthout.org link. Editor's Note | Yesterday, truthout's lead story carried an article by Capitol Hill Blue that quoted a 'CIA insider.' This insider, a Terrance J. Wilkinson, was reportedly present at two briefings when Bush was informed of, and then dismissed, evidence that his Iraq WMD claims were false. Capitol Hill Blue has run a retraction of that story, which we have printed below. According to Doug Thompson, author of the original story, Terrance J. Wilkinson does not exist, and Thompson has been getting scammed for over 20 years. Something about this story is decidedly strange, but in light of Thompson's retraction, we would be remiss not to run it. I am running down my contacts at CIA and Capitol Hill Blue to find out how all of this took place. We will let you know when we know. - wrp posted by Eric on 07.20.06 at 10:57 AM
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George Harleigh = Glenn Greenwald. McKreck · July 20, 2006 05:09 PM This does not surprise me in the least. The MSM has been ignoring outrageous claims from CHB for a while now (iirc, the last one was a widely-cited-on-the-left claim Bush said the Constitution was "just a piece of paper" that should be ignored). I would bet doubloons to doughnuts all the sourcing was fabricated. Erasing the references to Harleigh speaks volumes. Jason Leopold has a new friend on the Island of Discredited Lefty Journalists Who Were Caught Making Up Sources. TallDave · July 20, 2006 06:49 PM Oh, and I should add, this was very good work on your part, Eric. Thanks for sharing. TallDave · July 20, 2006 06:52 PM I wonder how many other "people" Thompson "quotes" are made up. Bill H · July 20, 2006 07:51 PM Makes automatically doubting the validity of posts by those of us who choose to blog nicknonymously look kind of silly, doesn't it... triticale · July 20, 2006 08:09 PM Odd; he's being planted around at various usual suspects. Slartibartfast · July 20, 2006 08:11 PM To make matters even worse IMHO, he quotes as an "authority" a political scientist, Christopher Kelley, who isn't even in a tenure-track position and is relegated to teaching as a Visiting Asst Prof in the same department that granted him his PhD. That is pretty lame. Reading Kelley's vita (http://www.users.muohio.edu/kelleycs/CV1.pdf), I see he has all of one published article in a referreed journal and a third or fourth string journal at that. Books, chapters in books, book reviews, and non-referreed journal articles just don't cut it. John Richardson · July 20, 2006 08:13 PM • Lucy Rameriz - Tang Memos, vanished no trace topsecretk9 · July 20, 2006 08:30 PM BumperStickerist · July 20, 2006 08:33 PM Here's the proper Google search for someone who wants to save all the scrubbing going on. George Non-Harleigh · July 20, 2006 08:41 PM I know this is probably a stupid observation but when I was reading "Terrance J. Wilkinson" , I just kept seeing "Lawrence B. Wilkerson" topsecretk9 · July 20, 2006 08:42 PM CHB has now published an apology, again claiming they were conned. "NOTE TO OUR READERS: This story has been edited since its original publication to remove a quote from a source that we have since learned was not who he claimed to be..." now appears where the Harleigh quote was, with a link to the apology page. The question is whether he was really conned or is just covering his ass, now that Harleigh has been exploded. Rich Rostrom · July 20, 2006 08:57 PM From deep within The Maceyugoserbulgarigreekadonian Compound I wish to say Eric, that you, and the others involved, are doing a stupendous job in the ongoing battle to expose the minions of the World Allied Conspiratorial Kongress of Idiotarians Everywhere ( Better known as W.A.C.K.I.E. ). I do wish to make a search term suggestion; Maybe "George Harleigh" is an anagram? Or maybe you should do a search spelling his name backwards. What I turned up doing a Google Search for Lirik ffeizarudnuk, for instance sure suprised me. I had no idea Google could do what it did, and am STILL laughing. ;-D Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 20, 2006 09:27 PM Best anagram for "George Harleigh" I came up with was "Helga Gehrig Roe," which draws a blank on Google. CGHill · July 20, 2006 09:51 PM Here's the gist of the original FR story, where Doug Thompson was first questioned. FReeps had been on to him for a while, already-that's why they were poking around. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/942488/posts Start at #65, then look at #80 where Doug shows up to explain. The guy's been at it for years, and why *anyone* would take his word for anything is a mystery. It goes to show you how willing MSM and many, are to accept facts without bothering to verify. Guesst · July 20, 2006 11:05 PM @CGHill: Maybe you have to transpose the letters first... clayzy · July 20, 2006 11:13 PM Here's one more that lays it all out from 2003 (a lot of research went into this and it's very well written and presented): Guesst · July 20, 2006 11:16 PM Sherman, check the wayback machine ! http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.capitolhillblue.com Mr. Peabody Fred · July 20, 2006 11:37 PM RE: CG Hill & Clayzy. Oh well, 'twas worth a shot. ;-D Hee, hee. ;-D Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 20, 2006 11:37 PM My God: a disinformation campaign so complete, at such a level of commitment, it makes one think of a KGB op does it not? Someone has gone to a hell of a lot of trouble, for a long time, to do this. Whoever did this is either so frighteningly obsessed and committed (heh) as to, well, need to be committed. He or she is a clear danger to anyone who might happen to express feelings of insufficient hatred of George Bush in the presence of this psychotic, and thereby place him- or herself in mortal danger. Or "George Harleigh" is not a single psycho, but a cadre of steel-willed ideologues, paid or not, who play by such rules as the KGB did for generations. Who could, who would do such a dastardly and cynical thing? Think George Soros, MoveOn, CounterPoint and others of that ilk. I tend to go with the cadre possibility, and the likelihood that George Soros is the witting paymaster of such an operation. Thuggish and frigghtening. These people ARE the new KGB, who feel they are in a war of conquest in which anything goes if it helps them bring about a collapse of the American system. I'm not kidding. jum1801 · July 20, 2006 11:53 PM Speculation w/o proof is Illogical, Captain. Ooops, sorry, its my addiction to Star Trek. ;-D Whoever is behind this, and why, seems to be unknown except for this Thompson guy, so until more concrete info is dug up it would not do for the Good Guys to start acting all squirrelly. Leave that to The Minions of W.A.C.K.I.E., okay, boys and girls. ;-D Kiril, The Macedonian · July 21, 2006 12:54 AM Harleigh, Wilkinson, Ramirez, and Greenwald's boyfriend's online personae are all Rovian plants designed to feed the sinistrosphere's appetite for Dirt On Rethuglikkkans. Yeah, that Rove is a crafty SOB. He had an operative play Thompson for two decades to gain sufficient trust that he'd run with an uncorroborated story. This can be done over and over, because they are predisposed to believe any story that puts Chimpy McBushitlerburton in a bad light, that their BS detectors go offline. If they had any intellectual honesty, they'd ask themselves if they'd believe the same allegations if aimed at one of their own. The end result of all of this is the disconnect between the netroots and what the average voter will see even from the left-leaning MSM. They will gladly purge Joe Lieberman for not being pure enough, leaving it up to the non-partisan CT voters to elect him as an independent. The Coronation of Her Imperial Majesty Hillary I, which seemed a foregone conclusion mere months ago, now stands a serious chance of being derailed as well, unless she's going to go third party herself. For an übergenius like Karl Rove, this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Yeah, he's such an Evilll Mastermind that no mere mortals can contend with him. Might as well give up. The Monster · July 21, 2006 12:58 AM Just checked with the Library of Congress. There is a Harle, Peter George. However, Mr. Harle has written books on accounting. Here's what listed by Harle: George) Advanced accounting. 1956 [ 2 ] Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Harle and Rose's secretarial law and practice in New Zealand / by P.G. Harle. 1958 [ 3 ] Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Industrial costing. 1946 [ 4 ] Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Secretarial law and practice. 1948 [ 5 ] Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Paul, Thomas Francis. Harle and Paul's secretarial law and practice, by P. G. Harle. 1969 [ 6 ] Harle, P. G. (Peter George) Paul, Thomas Francis. Paul's Secretarial and administrative practice / by T. F. Paul.
mj · July 21, 2006 01:06 AM Rethuglikkkans??? Ok, Where's Dr.McCoy, & his blasted Hypospray, when ya need him? Man, it's way past my bed time! To all the SERIOUS types looking into this, I wish ya'll the best. ;-D Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 01:59 AM I have a theory that Doug Thompson is actually Stephen Glass. I posted the question on classicalvalues, but I doubt it will be answered :) Kevin · July 21, 2006 02:32 AM The best anagram I can find is "Giggle, Oh Hearer". sammler · July 21, 2006 03:45 AM Oops! I meant 'capitolhillblue', not 'classicalvalues' in my previous post. Kevin · July 21, 2006 04:40 AM Heh! Another fine example of this: S Silverstein · July 21, 2006 05:29 AM FYI- looks like damage control is in effect at CHB- Anonymous · July 21, 2006 05:41 AM Clap! Clap! Clap! Flea · July 21, 2006 06:42 AM Sounds a little like "Art Vandeleigh" JPitter · July 21, 2006 07:25 AM My god! Someone is actually taking a Capitol Hill Blue article as fact?! It's nothing but conspiracy theories and rants. No one connected with that site has any connections to current politics. I'd believe the Weekly World News or Pravda before CHB. bianchiboy · July 21, 2006 07:50 AM 10 quotes from the amazing Mr. Harleigh, some covered, from an online quote aggregator. Apparently, he's quite busy spouting off against the current administration. Must be bored in his retirement from SIU. Mister Tan · July 21, 2006 07:58 AM Well, George Harleigh must be alive, because he's not listed in the Social Security Death Index. No one named "George Harleigh" has ever had a U.S. social security number and died. In fact, there is no one with the surname "Harleigh" in the entire Social Security Death Index. 77 million dead Americans are listed, but no one surnamed "Harleigh" is among them. Finally, the surname "Harleigh" apparently does not exist in the 1990 U.S. Census. Searching on it generates an error: "HARLEIGH not found". So...he's not dead in 2006, not alive in 1990, no apparent relatives or ancestors. Yeah, this one is hard to call. Sterling · July 21, 2006 08:24 AM A very long time ago (like in the 70's) I read a book where the protagonist made up quotes and attributed them to various historical figures. He never got called on it. But that was before the internet. Eric Blair · July 21, 2006 08:30 AM George Harleigh = Elvis. Can't you see? You'll find George whereever Blue Suede Shoes are still cool. The Daily Kos? Stickit · July 21, 2006 08:31 AM You guys aren't paying attention to the script, Orwell's 1984. This is just another case of Jones, Aaronson and Rutherford conveniently disappearing down the memory hole when it suits the whim of Big Brother for them to do so. But with one big difference...A,R and J really did exist at one time - Winston saw them in the flesh, which apparently can't be said for the CHB sources. Remember who you're dealing with here: since, in the mind of leftists, truth and even reality itself is not absolute but is simply a matter of personal preference, then it's no big deal to make up sources to support pet delusions, then lie about disposing of those sources when the the inevitable inconsistencies show up. These are children we're talking about here, and not very bright ones. El Dee · July 21, 2006 08:53 AM Too bad my grandfather isn't still alive. If he were, he'd be able to tell you if this guy exists or not as he was very closely tied to the Nixon and Reagan admins. nick · July 21, 2006 09:17 AM topsecretk9 above asks if he's missed any other fakers -- I would add Jesse Macbeth and Pepperspray Productions of Seattle, who did the fake war crime claim. Macbeth is real but his claim was fake. sissoed · July 21, 2006 09:20 AM Very nicely done. Thompson has been trafficking conspiracy crack to gullible kooks for at least 10 years. It used to be Vince Foster / Mena kidnapping tales for addled Freepers. Apparently there's greener pastures in the Bush Derangement - based community. Simply googling "George Harleigh" is highly instructive; it returns a veritable rainbow of nuttery, Left to Right, from Cutting Edge Ministries to DailyKos, Montana survivalists and San Francisco peace creeps, in one big hallucinatory HTML group hug. iowahawk · July 21, 2006 09:31 AM CHB = CIA CHB is simply a propaganda outlet for CIA disinformation aimed at enemies foreign and domestic. Incredibly sloppy, spooks. Incredibly sloppy. This is 2006. Adapt, will ya? Cover blown, but at least you won't have to relocate any agents except Doug Thompson. No one else really exists. w3 · July 21, 2006 10:25 AM Seriously, though... Compare this article on the subject of partisanship and news sourcing with its original from the Google cache. You get double the irony bang for your buck when you consider: 1) knowing what we know now, that Thompson used Harleigh as an example of named (supposedly non-partisan) sources in defense of attacks against CHB; 2) that Harleigh has now been scrubbed. Original in Google cache versus the new, highly ironic, scrubbed story: w3 · July 21, 2006 10:45 AM OK. I recieved a reply from Bill McTavish, and he has apologized for taking so much time, and posted a link to the apology. His apology says there's a newsletter they sourced Mr. Harleigh from. Wonder what that newsletter is, or how you get it. Scott · July 21, 2006 10:47 AM There is no "George Harleigh" in America. That's according to Intelius.com, USSearch.com., and Ancestry.com's public records database. Matt · July 21, 2006 10:56 AM Scott, You've received an email from someone claiming to be Bill McTavish, but how do you know that isn't someone at CHB pretending to be McTavish? At this point I'm not even sure I exist. Interestingly, Thompson spent some time working as a reporter in Alton, Illinois. Is it just coincidence that his favorite go-to guy is either 15 minutes or 2 hours away, depending on which campus the Sociology Department seated. Then again, SIU has a Dental School in Alton, which may explain how Thompson got the idea to invent a mouthpiece (if he did, in fact invent George). w3 · July 21, 2006 11:08 AM Eric, you asked: Is there any way to verify the July 17 date and time of the "apology"? I looked at the HTML source and it does have a time stamp that says July 17. Now that doesn't mean it couldn't be altered, but I doubt you'll find any way to verify that it was posted later than claimed by CHB's dateline. The Wayback Machine might have archived it on the date it was originally published but if your theory is that the article was actually published in response to your inquiries on a date sometime after July 17, 2006, you may have to wait until archival data on the post comes up in Google or Wayback Machine to find out if your theory holds water. I'm not sure what else can be done to verify the date on that report is a reflection of the truth. Anyone else have ideas? w3 · July 21, 2006 11:17 AM Oh, man! Its like the Twilight Zone. I'm gradually disappearing, disolving into the ether! George Harleigh · July 21, 2006 11:19 AM Pardon me. Where there is a will, there is a way: Notice that the July 19 google cache of FUBARs posts at CHB has no link to the July 17 post of an apology. Wayback has no archive of fubar's content page. Eric, I do believe you're on to something. w3 · July 21, 2006 11:25 AM Eric, regarding your wish to confirm when the "July 17 apology" appeared, I ran the page address through a nifty little utility called "Sam Spade", which reveals page attributes. Here's the results: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Note the "last modified" date and time. While this doesn't necessarily show when it originally appeared, it does show that it has been recently modified in some way. It could be the original publication time (I don't know when you first saw it), or he's altering it as we speak. I did check, and the changing ads on the page do not alter that time. He has to be altering the actual structure/content for that date to change. Hope this helps in some way! RationalLady · July 21, 2006 11:26 AM Thompson has a major problem, he has not one but possibly two false sources he has been using for years. Given his savage political accusations agains the adminstration, accusing Bush of being on drunken benders etc., everything the guy has written in the last eight years can be called into question. He knew or had ot know Harleigh was a fraud, he knew or should have known and he had a duty to check Wilkinson's bon fides and accuracy. Now he races to erase his lies. He gave himself "money" quotes to support his positions and then presented them as real. Shameful, hardly shocking. Ayatollah Ghilmeini · July 21, 2006 11:27 AM I see someone beat me to Ancestry/Rootsweb! ;-D MY search, there, turned up an obituary where the person who died had a 1st name GEORGE, AND listed was the town name of, yup, you guessed it, HARLEIGH. ;-D BABON, George A; 79; Harleigh PA>Hamilton NJ; Hazleton S-S (PA); 2003-3-29; tlc There is no Message Board for the Surname Harleigh, only 2 for Harley. There is a Harleigh Cemetary in Camden NJ. Lots of poor guys, and a few gals, stuck with Harleigh with a 1st name, as well, are being looked for, though. ;-D
Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 11:34 AM Someone with the energy and/or time to do it should look at the 'etag' format for CHB and see if contains a pattern. Is it serial? Is it subject related? What data are they sticking in that field and how is it generated? w3 · July 21, 2006 11:46 AM There is no Rootsweb Surname E-Mail Mailing List for HARLEIGH, but 1 for Harley. A search of Surnameguide.com for HARLEIGH turned up no results. This sites purpose: Surname Search Guide provides a single source for finding your family tree and researching your family names, meaning of surnames origin and family descent. A search of the world reknown LDS FamilySearch.org site turned up no-one named GEORGE HARLEIGH, worldwide, for the past 125 years. Lots of George HARLEY'S though. ;-D Searching just the last name HARLEIGH turned the name up in BRITAIN, for a woman, and 3 men whose last name might also have been spelled HARLEY! All lived in the 1300's, and appear to be a Father, his daughter, and 2 sons. ;-D But, again, no George. So it is at least theoretically possibble that since the last name exists in History that there is, or was, a George Harleigh loitering about somewhere. ;-D Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 12:00 PM A thought has just occured to me. Boy, are we having way too much fun debunking yet another Lefty website, or what? Hee, hee! I am just amazed at the various ways you folks more techno savvy than myself are digging into this. Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 12:06 PM The Anagram Server suggests this for "George Harleigh" Regale High Gore Seems accurate enough. (I posted this in the earlier thread, before I knew all the action had moved over here.) The Comedian · July 21, 2006 12:07 PM I posted this on the new Doug Thompson post, but will do so here as I think I may not be the only one confused: Finally wandered around his website this morning, and um, is it me, or does this site that claims to be a "non-partisan experiment in on-line journalism published as an information resource for our readers", and doesn't "play favorites" or "shill for any political party, philosophical group or ideological point-of-view" have a serious problem of indulging in "flights of fancy"? I'm thus confused. Is this guy supposed to be a Conservative, or a Liberal. Either way he needs serious help, in my estimation. Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 12:56 PM Capitol Hill Blue is a kook website. From Feb 23, 2006 "One of the things that perpetually amazes me is that anyone pays the slightest bit of attention to Capitol Hill Blue, which is in my opinion, a lefty scam blog that continually claims to have these big scoops about what's going on in the White House. Their standard modus operandi is, again in my opinion, to make up highly charged stories from whole cloth, Jayson Blair style, and then claim that the information they received was given to them by highly placed anonymous sources." More here John Hawkins · July 21, 2006 01:13 PM There is a plitical science instructor at SDSU who worked for both Nixon and Reagan. He is anything but anti-Bush. I had him por pol s 101 and 102. Ask him if the name sounds familiar. www.docstoddard.com Bryan · July 21, 2006 01:35 PM So let me get this straight, the "god damned piece of paper" quote was made up? Color me surprised... Seixon · July 21, 2006 01:41 PM Dear John: Thanks! I get it now! Doug, & his site, is just an equal opportunity Minion of W.A.C.K.I.E. ( World Allied Conspiratorial Kongress of Idiotarians Everywhere ) Kiril, The Mad Macedonian · July 21, 2006 01:49 PM Just for the record, all... I looked at Cutting Edge Ministries and I didn't happen to see that they were left-wing. They are opposed to Bush's NAFTA-type plans, and anything that savors of the Antichrist of Revelation... But you don't have to be left-wing to oppose global/regional governance, do you? Or are you making the logical error of assuming that our current president embodies all that is right-wing? If you've the opportunity to do so, could someone please point out to me where Cutting Edge is left-wing OTHER than opposing North-American-Union plans? FearlessMinky · July 21, 2006 03:01 PM The Wayback Machine shows "Doug's" old 1997 e-mail address as: dthompson@tridentgroup.com Others with this same domain are listed in the "Customer Support" section of a gambling site (my attempt to post the web address here was denied for "questionable content"). May not mean anything, but I thought I'd toss it into the mix. Regret · July 21, 2006 03:45 PM Hmm, it looks like the story that Mr. McTavish was fired has been scrubbed, too. I can't seem to find it by following the links provided. mcg · July 21, 2006 05:55 PM Great job debunking this moron. This is the left at it's finest. Mark · July 21, 2006 06:01 PM What does it matter? You've got the word of Al Franken, Michael Moore, George Soros, Barbra Streisand, and a host of other luminaries for the same thing. The real quote of interest should be "The very future of the Democratic Party may well rest on whether or not anyone can, or will, restore it from its mad obsession with George W. Bush." You can quote me. The people who have seized control of the party seem to be the same ones who nearly destroyed the party in 1968 and 1972. Their efforts to defeat Senator Lieberman illustrate their lack of understanding of politics, democracy, and common sense. This great party which led this nation through World War II, has made war a stumbling block and a cause for paranoia and delusion to its current members. If not delivered from this insanity, the stable political system of this country will be threatened, and contention, bitterness and hatred will increase and linger long after George W. Bush is no longer in office. AST · July 21, 2006 11:16 PM I love how people are supposed to believe his first source started conning him back in the 1980's, apparently so he could feed him bogus info 20 years later. Also, has anyone checked with the NM congressman he named in his first "apology" who he supposedly worked with back in the 80's? Probably has passed on if this guy has half a brain. twalsh · July 22, 2006 12:30 AM FearlessMinky, Try reading iowahawk's comment again (emphasis mine): "...a veritable rainbow of nuttery, Left to Right, from Cutting Edge Ministries to DailyKos, Montana survivalists and San Francisco peace creeps..." Brian · July 22, 2006 02:18 AM I think that CHB guy is a sociopath. bird dog · July 22, 2006 08:46 AM the person responsible for the lies has cut and run - but not acknowledging any of the specific lies - just some that did not live up to real journalistic integrty. Thats rich. Especially how he titled his post - Good Night and Good Luck - May I say good bye and good riddance? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/content/2006/07/good_night_and_good_luck.html David · July 22, 2006 10:19 AM Am I missing something? Has mystery man George made a dissapearance from the GOOGLE CACHE? If that has happened (maybe I'm blind!) This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8366.shtml as retrieved on Jul 21, 2006 00:50:19 GMT.
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With all the public furor over his use of the National Security Agency to spy on Americans, and the near-mutiny in the Republican party over his high-handed approach to the Presidency, you'd think George W. Bush might have learned a thing or two about the dangers of arrogance. After the public ceremony, Bush issued a "signing statement" that reiterated, in effect, Bush's belief that the Constitution is "just a goddamned piece of paper" and he does not feel constrained by law or obligated by provisions of the act that require he inform Congress in a timely manner on just what the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other parts of his American Gestapo are up to when it comes to snooping into the private lives of Americans. ''The executive branch shall construe the provisions that call for furnishing information to entities outside the executive branch in a manner consistent with the president's constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch and to withhold information (from Congress and, of course, the public)," Bush said. Bush says he will withhold information if he, and only he, decides disclosure would ''impair foreign relations, national security, the deliberative process of the executive, or the performance of the executive's constitutional duties." The President's latest display of "I am above the law" arrogance might have gone unnoticed because most of the media concentrated on the public pomp and circumstance and ignored the real story. Charlie Savage of The Boston Globe, was one of the few who reported on the signing statement. Yet Savage's story fell off the media landscape with a resounding thud as the rest of the mainstreamers, apparently kowtowed by Bush's threats to haul reporters and editors in front of grand juries if they dare write about his abuse of the Constitution and use of U.S. spy agencies to snoop on Americans, stuck with reporting on the President's latest road show to sell the failed Iraq war. The revised USA Patriot Act emerged from Congress with a number of oversight provisions requiring the President to report to the Hill on a strict timetable. One of those provisions said the White House had to tell Congress just how the FBI used the expanded wiretap and surveillance powers granted under the act. Some in Congress, like Senator Patrick Leahy, are pissed as hell at the President's claim that he is above the law. ''The president's signing statements are not the law, and Congress should not allow them to be the last word," Leahy says in a statement issued by his office. ''The president's constitutional duty is to faithfully execute the laws as written by the Congress, not cherry-pick the laws he decides he wants to follow. It is our duty to ensure, by means of congressional oversight, that he does so." Constitutional law professors say Bush could be bluffing but history shows that Bush bluffs first and then goes ahead and does what he wants if nobody calls the bluff. David Golove, a New York University law professor and expert on presidential power issues, told the Boston Globe that Bush's actions display a ''mind-bogglingly expansive conception" of his power and the White House's blatant disregard for the role of Congress. ''On the one hand, they deny that Congress even has the authority to pass laws on these subjects like torture and eavesdropping, and in addition to that, they say that Congress is not even entitled to get information about anything to do with the war on terrorism," Golove said. Bush's actions are just another example of a madman who appears determined to destroy the Constitution and a country called America. Unfortunately, this madman will continue to wreak havoc until somebody puts a stop his insanity.
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Mark Hugo · July 22, 2006 11:12 AM Hate-linking still, are we? Clayton Cramer? You really need to remove your head from your ass. sixfootpolemn@Yahoo.com · July 22, 2006 12:19 PM OH MY GOD! Have I hate-linked? And I did it again? I'm so sorry! I'll have to check with you first to make sure it never happens again. Perhaps an editor or an ombudsman could be appointed to ensure my accountability. Eric Scheie · July 22, 2006 03:27 PM Looks like it wasn't just Thompson writing stories with quotes from George Harleigh. Check out: http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=2212 Appears to be a post of an article originally from CHB, but written by William McTavish, the current editor. G. Harleigh with a Bush-bashing quote of course. Anon · July 22, 2006 05:06 PM It appears most likely that George Harleigh is an entirely fictional construct invented by the editors of CHB. Will.Spencer · July 24, 2006 09:05 PM Note that the quotations and citations get removed, but this does not have any effect on the authors' conclusions. The very concpts of logic and evidence are irrelevant to these people. Bleepless · July 25, 2006 01:25 PM A whistling girl and a crowing hen always come to a bad end. Leon · July 28, 2006 09:06 PM Excellent and very helpful Gamm · July 29, 2006 08:28 PM |
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