And now, there is another thing Gore should be doing to help the environment, the wanker:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=d81c6fbf-8575-45c0-9274-c24f8f536910&k=27670

Jon, that's a riot. And all this time we've been told that it's the conservatives that care about what goes on in your bedroom!

Just goes to show, if you're totalitarian enough in your thinking, you finally do get around to regulating everything. If Orwell wrote 1984 today, Winston and Julia's subversive acts might have to do with insufficiently environmentally safe sex.

Jon, no offense, but isn't "Wanker" supposed to be Atrios's proprietary appellation?

:)

I have been intimately involed in butchering hogs. 2,000 a day.

When you stick them they squeal like stuck pigs. And they thrash around a lot. Very dangerous with the sharp hooves.

Usually the electric shock keeps them conked out until they bleed to death. Not always.

Interesting, I take it that wasn't halal pork?

You know, I'm sitting here right now eating about what I believe to be a 48 oz steak that I just cooked out on the grill. It was about 9 degrees above ass-freezing out there and the grill is the only thing that kept my fingers from snapping off. The deadly evil meat burning away in my gut ... it keeps me warm at night. Bring on the global warming!

Precisely why they don't want to scold people about meat!

A Congressional global warming hearing will begin today, while DC is under a snow advisory.

Al wants to put the cheese in the breeze.

Hmm... I thought it was fruit that is mostly responsible for creating methane in the human digestive system, not meat. Shouldn't we be discouraging the eating of fruit to reduce methane and thereby global warming?

And what do cows eat that cause them to produce so much methane? Greens and grains! We should discourage the eating of green leafy vegetables and grain. These must surely have the same effect on humans. Maybe meat is the only non-global warming food?

How do we grow enough vegetables to eat and to make fuel for our SUVs? Clear cut the remaining forests? Spotted owls are not going to like this!

Didn't I just read organic farming releases a lot of stuff from the ground that shouldn' be released????

I'm investing in the lentil futures market before Gore corners it.

"Researchers at the University of Chicago have determined that switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Toyota Prius."

I'm guessing that's because switching to a Prius from the standard American car (a Camry?) doesn't get you that much.

Human meat consumption? Hold Al's feet to the fire? Make him squeal like a stuck pig? Is this a new trend in food marketing?

The too many animals approach would make the extermination of the bison a good thing. Personally, I think the whole over simplification of these issues," If only we did this.." or " We shouldn't do that.." highlights the fact that we do not understand , or control, what is going on.

Dammit, now I'm hungry. Thanks a lot, guys.

> why are the GW people not
> talking about it?

GW people *have* been talking about this, for years--how do you think PETA heard about it? I've seen articles about bovine emissions several years ago. You need to pay better attention and subject yourself to GW people who know what they're talking about, like the blog RealClimate.

Why not sell "guilt offsets"? For a hundred bucks a month I'll feel guilty for you. I'll send you pictures of me crying or looking sad and of course guilty.

Big rich libs like Al Gore can then be guilt free and I'll get rich.

Not only that. AGM people claim that the absence of any warming between about 1940 and about 1975 was the result of buring high sulfer coal. The West in general and the US in particular, stopped buring high sulfer coal beginning in the early 1970s because of the early environmental movement. (Yes, its true, environmentalism causes AGM.) If so, one easy and obvious solution to global warming is to repeal the Clean Air Act. Naturally, this is not something we really want to do but, since we are now faced with THE WORST CRISIS in the history of humanity, we really have no choice. Either we burn more high sulfer coal or cause the extinction of all life on earth. (Also, more nukes.)

Not only that. AGM people claim that the absence of any warming between about 1940 and about 1975 was the result of buring high sulfer coal. The West in general and the US in particular, stopped buring high sulfer coal beginning in the early 1970s because of the early environmental movement. (Yes, its true, environmentalism causes AGM.) If so, one easy and obvious solution to global warming is to repeal the Clean Air Act. Naturally, this is not something we really want to do but, since we are now faced with THE WORST CRISIS in the history of humanity, we really have no choice. Either we burn more high sulfer coal or cause the extinction of all life on earth. (Also, more nukes.)

Not only that, AGM believers claim that the absence of any warming between about 1940 and about 1975 was the result of buring high sulfer coal. The West in general, and the US in particular, stopped buring high sulfer coal beginning in the early 1970s because of presure from the early environmental movement. (Yes, its true, environmentalism causes AGM.)

If aerosol sulfides prevent global warming, one easy and obvious solution to global warming is to repeal the Clean Air Act. Best of all, this would have immediate enconomic benefits in the short term as well as preventing the manifold horrors of AGM. Naturally, this is not something we really want to do but, it is universally admitted that the Kyoto treaty and similar measures will merely slow the progress of AGW. The only technology "proven" to actually halt AGM in its tracks is high sulfer coal. If you consider that we are now faced with THE WORST CRISIS in the whole HISTORY OF HUMANITY, we really have no choice. Either we burn more high sulfer coal or cause the extinction of all life on earth. (Also, more nukes!!!!)

Meat production isn't a major contributor to greenhouse gases, at least not on any long time scale. Large areas of the world (like North America) used to be covered in vast herds of methane farting herbivores such as bison and the seas were full of farting whales. We haven't come close to replacing the natural methane producing biomass by our domestic meat producing animals.

Given that recent studies have found that plants, especially those in tropical areas produce far more methane than previously thought, cutting down a rain forest for beef production might actually put one ahead of the greenhouse gas production game.

don;t foget the dairy herds!

Hmm, does this mean that Buffalo Bill and all the other people who have been reviled for almost killing off the American buffalo were actually de-facto environmental do-gooders?

Good points. I added a few myself on my blog

http://jameshudnall.com/blog.php?/site/comments/quote_of_the_day3/

Too much CO-Moo in the atmosphere?

Just to make this clear for those who aren't paying enough attention, meat farming is the number one cause of carbon dioxide. Methane doesn't matter much because it doesn't concentrate in the atmosphere.

iftheshoefits,

Kyoto in the bedroom? We need sex offsets now to account for all the extra CO2 released during heavy breathing.