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June 28, 2006
Legalize smoking -- or face a war crimes tribunal!
Can logic be carried too far? Earlier, when I researched the question of landlord legal liability for tenants' secondhand cigarette smoke, I found an amazing web site, which goes much further than merely saying landlords are liable. According to the site, landlords and all others who allow cigarette smoking are murderers -- even part of a "Tobacco Holocaust." Now, the guy who writes this site may be a nut (for starters he's trivializing the Holocaust), but I believe in giving the devil his due. And there's a certain perverse logic here which I find disturbing (at least if his numbers and research are correct). While I haven't checked the accuracy of these numbers, the site makes the claim that legally speaking, smoke is a poison -- and full of heavily regulated toxins: Cigarettes contain and emit large quantities of toxic chemical emissions including carbon monoxide. They are inherently dangerous. The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Reducing the Health Consequences of Smoking: 25 Years of Progress: a Report of the Surgeon General, Publication CDC 89-8411, Table 7, pp 86-87 (1989), lists examples of deleterious ingredients including but not limited to:Having documented that poisonous regulated toxins are being emitted, the site then points out that it is illegal to poison people: Laws already ban poisoning one's neighbors, in fact, anyone, neighbor or not. Casualties and deaths at apartments/condominiums due to smoking, are part of the overall tobacco holocaust. Such effects arise as toxic tobacco smoke (TTS) from neighbors seeps into apartments, condominiums, and causing disease, fires, deaths, not to mention the preceding annoyances, nuisance, and irritations. Which means that you're in danger of being killed: You are in danger. Toxic tobacco smoke (TTS) kills more people than motor vehicle accidents, all crimes, AIDS, illegal drugs, etc. In other words, you are statistically more likely to be killed by your neighbor's tobacco smoke than by his car, his gun, or his AIDS virus. Your landlord or management are aiding and abetting, accessory to this illegal killing, of which (as the body count is at the "holocaust" level) you may well be a future casualty.In short, this is a Holocaust, every bit as much as that perpetrated by Nazis put on trial at Nuremburg: Be aware that the sole reason why the issue of a nonsmoker being adversely impacted by tobacco smoke, presenting individualized evidence of harm—why that issue even comes up, is malice, corruption and similar unethical, immoral, and illegal reasons. The government enforces the law with respect to spewing toxic chemicals in all other aspects of life, including on these same exact chemicals (carbon monoxide, cyanide, etc.). Repeat, that government officials do not do so on this subject is due to personal corruption on a mass basis constituting the proximate cause of the ongoing tobacco holocaust at a level of casualties far exceeding that prosecuted in The Nurnberg Trial, 6 FRD 69 (1946).In case you're not yet laughing, the site author claims that future prosecutions -- and executions -- for murder are possible. They are knowingly aiding and abetting and accessory to potentially your death, for which they, like the Nazis at Nurnberg, may be executed in the future. The people they mass-exterminated had no legal obligation whatsoever to offer any suggestions to the would-be killers as to how to avoid doing the killings. You have the same human right. You can remain silent, all the legal responsibilities are on the perpetrator.The problem with laughing it off is that let us suppose that logically, he is right that tobacco is an environmental toxin, like mercury or cyanide. If it is, and if (as he claims) the law recognizes it that way, then in logic why aren't cigarette smokers treated the same way someone would be treated who leached cyanide gas, mercury vapor, or gasoline fumes (all in quantities not large enough to be immediately fatal) into the halls of an apartment building? Because of numbers? Or a de facto (not legal) exception for cigarette smoking? That's small consolation. I find this troubling, just as I found it troubling to discover that roof runoff is considered a toxic (because of the material leached from the composition of the shingles), but that the laws simply aren't enforced. Yet. When laws exist but they aren't enforced only because "everyone does it," what are the longterm implications to freedom? I'm not saying that cigarette smokers or landlords should be prosecuted, mind you. Precisely the opposite. Many of the laws make it a crime simply to move one substance that originated in the ground to another location somewhere in the ground. Where do oil, tobacco, and lead come from? What are the "toxics" in storm water runoff other than things which came from the ground and are returning to the ground in small quantities? That these laws and regulations exist but are not being enforced means that most of us are committing felons. Considering that government regulations invariably become stricter over time (lest the bureaucrats lose their jobs for not rewriting them), I'd say smoking is just the tip of the iceberg. The existing laws many of us don't know about will be enforced. Things we take completely for granted will become criminal acts. I don't see much difference between the two major parties on these issues. The current Surgeon General is as much of an anti-tobacco activist as it's possible to be, and I doubt the Democrats' choice would be any better. Well, I guess we could go back to fighting over condoms on bananas. (That's always the best thing to do when freedom is at stake.) posted by Eric on 06.28.06 at 07:26 PM
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Hugh, Good to hear from you again, and thanks for the info! This site seemed hokey to me, but I still think he's onto something about escalating laws and inconsistent regulation of toxics. Eric Scheie · June 28, 2006 11:23 PM I have looked at the web site, it is obvious he does not know the difference between mg, ug, ng, or ppm, ppb, ppt. 30 yrs ago analysis to ppm was very difficult (part per million) today accurate analysis in parts per trillion are standard. Hugh · June 28, 2006 11:47 PM I have to say, if everything I've ever read from anti-smokers is right, this guy is so far off in his numbers it isn't even funny. The highest, highest I have ever seen for TTS deaths is less than a 100% increase in morbidity rates over background in regards to lung cancer. Instead of a one in 100,000 chance, you have a one in 80,000 chance. From those numbers, the highest ever put forward by an actual study, TTS is one-tenth as lethal as stairs are, and only 1/100 as lethal as stairs, across the whole country. Of course, the government occasionally puts out reports about thounsands croaking every year from TTS. The problem is, they are BSing. They say that if you lived with someone who smoked, you died of second-hand smoke, unless an autopsy was done or you died violently. It doesn't matter if your heart popped or you died of diabetes; if you lived with a smoker, TTS killed you. Jon Thompson · June 29, 2006 01:02 AM Actually, he's quite imaginative. He also does his level best to attribute AIDS to smoking: Eric Scheie · June 29, 2006 07:55 AM I've heard it alleged that the statistics regarding people who live with smokers did not even take into account whether those people are themselves smokers, which they are somewhat likely to be. triticale · July 1, 2006 08:09 AM |
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I do not know where these TLV's came from, but most are in error, 150 ppm ammonia would no doubt be a lethal concentration, the TLV is 25.
Hydrogen cyanide and hydrogen sulphide are both
lethal at very low levels.
Toxic chemicals have good published TLV's a scare tactics are not helpful.
Hugh