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June 13, 2006
Roveing Roundup (revised North American version)
In what has to be considered huge news, Great Satan Karl Rove is not being indicted. Stephen Green says, It's really too bad this news didn't come out on Friday. The reactions from the wackos at the Kos Konvention would have been priceless.And Ann Althouse says "Oh, the pain..." Intrigued by this, I decided to poke around and see just what the left is saying. "Not a Happy Way to Start the Morning," says Atrios. (I can't say the news did much for me one way or the other.) FireDogLake's Christy Hardin Smith: You do not charge someone with a criminal indictment merely because they are scum. You have to have the evidence to back up any charges — not just that may indicate that something may have happened, but you must have evidence that criminal conduct occurred and that you can prove it. You charge the evidence you have, you try the case you can make, and you don’t go down a road that will ultimately be a waste of the public’s money and time once you have ascertained that the case is simply not there. It doesn’t mean that you don’t think the SOB that you can’t charge isn’t a weasel or guilty as hell, it just means that you can’t prove it. (And, fwiw, those times are the worst of your career, because you truly hate to let someone go when you know in your gut they’ve done something wrong.)While there wasn't a top shelf entry at Daily Kos when I looked, diarist nathanrudy voices similar thoughts: . . .it also doesn't mean that Rove is innocent of any involvement in outing an undercover CIA agent whose job it was to protect us from rogue states seeking unsecured nuclear material and bombs.Not that I expected cheering. Oddly enough, I'm not seeing much cheering among Republicans. Drudge offers documentation of a generally apathetic response on the left, but not from Howard Dean: 'If Karl Rove had been indicted it would have been for perjury. That does not excuse his real sin which is leaking the name of an intelligence operative during the time of war. He doesn't belong in the White House. If the President valued America more than he valued his connection to Karl Rove, then Karl Rove would have been fired a long time ago. So I think this is probably good news for the White House, but its not very good news for America'...Yawn. . . While I agree with Stephen Green that the reaction (because of group dynamics) would have been much more ferocious at YearlyKos had the news come out on Friday, I'm not surprised by the subdued reaction today. I think that, despite the hatred of Karl Rove, the fact that this whole thing was so stretched out made it die with a whimper instead of a bang. So it's anticlimactic. It might also indicate that the left has learned from experience that Karl Rove is like a tar baby -- a subject best avoided. UPDATE: As I post this, I see that meanwhile, conservatives are claiming that Bush plans to dissolve the United States: President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.If the allegations are true, I don't expect conservatives to spend much time celebrating the Rove news. MORE: Glenn Reynolds predicts that Bush will not be reelected. I agree. AFTERTHOUGHT: It's worth remembering that for years the far left claimed that Bush's goal was to destroy American democracy. Does the Human Events piece mean conservatives are coming around to a similar view? MORE: Daily Kos' Cyberotter has more on the North American Union: One comprised of the US, Canada and Mexico called the North American Union. This new country would require a new Constitution and a new Bill of Rights. The framework for this new country is already beginning to take shape. The genesis of this idea can be found in the document entitled, "Building a North American Community." Authored by a group called Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) with input from the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.It's interesting to see that the left and the right are both beginning to sound the alarm about this. Might there even be bilateral support for the continuation of the United States? Or is such an idea too fantastic to be true? Stay tuned. MORE: Tammy Bruce (whose opinion I respect) thinks this is not paranoia: This is not a paranoid theoretical musing. Jerome has the facts and the links. In a day when the president's actions regarding illegal aliens seem wholly inexplicable, this expose helps to make sense of it all. In other words, the president is a Globalist and means to erase North American borders. Of course, it also means we have to stop him.Hmmm... Was I wrong when I speculated that the left and the right would be unable to agree on specific articles of impeachment? AND MORE: I added to the title of this post, as these events are beginning to get beyond my grasp. MORE: James Joyner expressed skepticism last month. MORE: Done With Mirrors: Either someone is jumping the shark here, or there is something very cynical afoot.Could be both. FINAL THOUGHT: I'd like to think this "North American Union" deal is paranoia. (Of course, what I'd like plus two dollars might get me a cup of coffee....) Any thoughts anyone? UPDATE (06/15/06): Wikipedia entry on the "North American Union" here. posted by Eric on 06.13.06 at 09:28 AM
Comments
why do both the paranoid left and right assume we will be subsumed into this NAU. why can't we just annex both of these failed states as part of the United States. A little 21st century manifest destiny. ray · June 13, 2006 03:26 PM What Ray said. Rachel · June 13, 2006 03:37 PM My reaction is pretty much the same. Bush does not have the legal power to do such a crazy thing, and annexation would be smarter and saner! Eric Scheie · June 13, 2006 05:07 PM If we are ever going to be in the same country as the CANADIANS, do me a favor. Break into my house the night before and put a bullet in the back of my skull. Don't just think of it as a favor to me; think of it as stopping me from going on a murderous, rage-induced rampage. And that's something even liberals can get behind. (I have no idea what that last sentence meant) Jon Thompson · June 14, 2006 05:19 AM Reminds me of a Canadian kid I knew in graduate school. A leftist, he was convinced that the US intended to invade Canada and noted, as evidence, that our interstates are "defense" highways. It is hard to know how to reply to such arguments, seriously. (But another graduate student did come up with a fine reply. He simply asked why Americans would want to ruin thier own property in Canada.) Jim Miller · June 14, 2006 08:29 AM It won't happen overnight, but it WILL happen. Maybe GW won't make it happen, but the seeds have been planted. It happened in Europe... Osopestoso · June 15, 2006 05:00 AM |
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Well, the first and most obvious counter to the "Bush plans to dissolve the union and turn us into The North American Union" is... he can't. He doesn't have the power to.
He could say "the USA is no more and we're part of the NAU" right now, and it would do no more than get him instantly impeached (treason is a high crime, right? or at very least it's evidence of insanity). The Armed Forces wouldn't listen to him (since he has no authority to give such an order, it's illegal); the courts and Congress obviously wouldn't, either.
At any rate, Corsi's rant doesn't actually support his hyperbolic conclusion about dissolving the union, nor does the evidence he provides. The sources provided suggest more trade integration and perhaps an attempt (which would require Congress's approval) at a Customs Union... but not an abrogation of sovereignty or creation of a new "superstate".
The only plus side is that Corsi seems to be deliberately hyperbolic to make his points about immigration, rather than truly serious about that stupid crap.