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November 21, 2005
Unrepentantly unrepenetrated?
If there's one thing that wakes me up in the morning, it's a sudden collision with another undefinable word. This morning it was a word I thought I'd understood for most of my life: virginity. As it turns out, it's suffered the fate of many a word these days: It's all laid out in the new book Virginity Lost: An Intimate Portrait of First Sexual Experiences by sociology professor Laura Carpenter. She's now at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, but Carpenter was working at the University of Pennsylvania when she did most of her research in the last few years. She interviewed 61 Philadelphia-area residents about how and why they lost it.A double standard for gays and straights? Why would that be? Why am I not perceiving the "certain logic" said to be involved? (Yes, I do realize that "certain" means the opposite of "absolute" here. The more isolated "certain" becomes, the less broad certainty there is.) It strikes me that either oral sex represents the loss of virginity or it does not. While participation in homosexual oral sex certainly indicates the presence of homosexual or bisexual urges, I don't see why there would be a more rigid standard for what constitutes virginity among gays and lesbians. Besides, I thought gays were supposed to be more sexually immoral. At least less prudish. If the standard for loss of virginity -- a cornerstone of traditional sexual morality -- is to be defined in a more puritanical manner for them, doesn't that undercut the view of them as less sexually moral than heterosexuals? Frankly, I see the opposite of logic at work. Who's setting up these definitions, anyway? And should there be a different standard for lesbians* than for gay men? Has the ancient concept of penetration been lost in the modern cultural shuffle? Needless to say, there's a double standard surrounding virginity for everyone, which, stubbornly, remains more of a stigma for women than for men: Historically, virginity was always more of an issue for women, who were seen as property, and one who lost her virginity was considered "ruined" for potential marriage. In many cultures, it's believed that virginity can be "proven" if a girl retains her hymen, a small piece of skin that covers the vagina. Sometimes, but not always, the hymen will tear and bleed when a woman has sex for the first time. A small number of plastic surgeons around the country now perform "hymen reconstruction," apparently mostly for women from Muslim countries.Plastic surgeons performing "reconstructive" surgery? If virginity is a valuable commodity (the loss of which is considered akin to damaged goods), isn't there an element of fraud there? Or is that not the doctor's problem? There's little question about the historical importance placed on virginity, which is both a modern and an ancient virtue: Virginity has been often considered to be a virtue denoting purity and physical self-restraint and is an important characteristic of some religious figures such as the Virgin Mary (often called simply the Virgin), the Ten Virgins and the Greek goddesses Athena, Artemis, and Hestia. The Maiden or Virgin is one of the three persons of the Triple Goddess in many Neopagan traditions. The constellation Virgo represents a wide selection of sacred virgins.Then there's cultural honor: Female virginity is closely interwoven with personal or even family honor in many cultures. Traditionally in some cultures (especially those dominated by Christianity, Islam and Judaism) there has been a widespread belief that the loss of virginity before marriage is a matter of deep shame. In some countries, this loss has been linked to honor killings.In the West, there's a cultural split (which I guess could be lumped in with the "Culture War" -- if disagreements are that) but no one's getting killed over it: Some elements within western culture no longer regard premarital virginity as a virtue and may allude to it disparagingly. The increasingly-common belief of some western youth that virginity is no longer to be regarded as a virtue has become a matter of considerable debate, especially related to controversies involving sexuality among young people. Continuing virginity after a certain age is even regarded by some to be a negative thing, implying that the person is unattractive, prudish or sexually immature.It strikes me that virginity and honesty are inextricably intertwined. Certainly, there is no way to know whether a man is a virgin. His partner has only is word for it, and if he lies, he lies. But even with a woman, if we consider modern cosmetic surgery's ability reverse the loss of technical virginity by restoring the hymen, again, it's the woman's word. People who prize virginity and demand it of their spouses need to be more careful than they did in the old days. There's no longer any sure way to "trust but verify." Still, it has always struck me that there's inevitably going to be an element of sexism involved. I attended an all male school, and most of my peers regarded the concept of "virginity" as a joke. Most of them lied, too -- and not about having kept their virginity. This "loss" -- something that's supposed to be a source of shame among girls -- was a source of pride among boys. When I was a kid, a boy was expected to lose his virginity, and he was expected to brag about having done so -- regardless of whether it was true. Let's face it, folks, virginity has never been associated with virility. Why, I'd be willing to bet that more kids lie about having lost their virginity than about having kept it. But let me return to penetration. In our attempt to be egalitarian and non-sexist about these things, I think that's what's being ignored. At the risk of being sexist, I must ask: Is there or should there be any cultural distinction between penetrating and being penetrated? There's a stubborn but persistent belief -- among men and women -- that it's better to penetrate than be penetrated, and I don't see that going away. Likewise, I see no practical way to avoid the ancient (if undeniably sexist in modern terms) feminine origin of the word virgin: "Virgin" originated from the Greek and Latin word "Virgo," or maiden. It was used often in Greek mythology to classify several goddesses such as Artemis (also known as Diana) and Hestia. Virgin was a label of strength and independence -- it described the goddesses who were immune to the temptations of Dionysus, Greek god of seduction and wine. Artemis is the Greek virgin goddess of the moon and the hunt; she protects women in labor, small children and wild animals. Hestia is the Greek virgin goddess of the hearth. She never takes part in the struggle of men and gods. Virginity was once a term of power.Power? But that's not fair to the men! As we all know, the word virgin has "evolved" to the point where men and women have just as much right to be virgins. But is that really fair to either sex? What about common sense? When a man loses his virginity, who's to know? There's no physical evidence, no bloodstained sheets, no pain. It's an event almost as ill-defined as "becoming a man." You're never quite sure it really happened, or when or sometimes even how. The whole business is so murky that, historically, virginity has been a term applied mainly to women. Because for a woman, losing it is generally a more clear-cut, tangible affair. The first time a penis penetrates her vagina is often memorialized with blood, pain or both. That's from the rupturing of her hymen, a fibrous membrane that may partly or completely cover the opening of her vagina.Nothing fair about it. Nor is it fair that women can have have their virginity surgically restored and men can't. What's a man to do if he wants his virginity back? See the film about the 40 year old virgin and fantasize? There's nothing fair about any of this.
...[T]he word [Virgin] may come from her uncorrupted state, as virago, because she does not know womanly passion. posted by Eric on 11.21.05 at 07:06 AM
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Most interesting. If virgin is etymologically related to virago, then it is also related to virtue, which means strength. I'm coming to like those words more and more, virtue and virgin. Also chastity, which, in Catholic use, means both virginity before marriage and fidelity within marriage. Yes, as you show, virginity is an ancient mythic archetype. So, it isn't as much Apollo vs. Dionysus as Artemis vs. Dionysus. In the Egyptian myth, Isis gives birth to Horus, Osiris's avenger, all by herself, virginally. Back to Greek mythology, I have always found Artemis (who I often identify with Dawn) sexier than Aphrodite (who I often identify with Wanda). And this woman sexier than all the Playboy centerfolds I have ever seen. As to what constitutes virginity, I would say it excludes not only penile-vaginal sex, but also anal sex, oral sex, mutual masturbation, any form of the sexual embrace with another. That goes for heterosexuals as well as homosexuals. I'm a virgin by that standard, though I don't know if solitary masturbation vitiates that. I also hold that virginity or chastity is every bit as important for a man as for a woman. I know that the Tribadentine definition of a virgin differs from the above somewhat, i.e., "she who has never allowed the foul hand of man to defile her", as Cardinal de Bey put it so eloquently. In other words, a Lesbian. "At the risk of being sexist, I must ask: Is there or should there be any cultural distinction between penetrating and being penetrated? There's a stubborn but persistent belief -- among men and women -- that it's better to penetrate than be penetrated, and I don't see that going away." Yes, I have often noted that that was the ancient distinction among men, that one of the most comon methods of humiliating a defeated enemy in war was male-on-male anal rape. That was what the men of Sodom tried to do to the angels. Our most obscene words and gestures still center on that. That joke about the lettuce is getting a little old. Penetrating vs. being penetrated. Myself, I have always thought of it in reverse, enveloping vs. being enveloped. The woman's vagina captures the man's penis. When, that is, she's not capturing or being captured by another woman. Steven Malcolm Anderson the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · November 21, 2005 03:39 PM Thanks Steven, for your kind words and the thoughts in your comment. (Carl, you now know more than more about what you never wanted to know!) :) Eric Scheie · November 21, 2005 05:13 PM Another sexual question I've been thinking about, not about virginity but about masturbation and Naturalists vs. Jehovanists vs. Gnostics: Would masturbating with the American flag be a desecration or a consecration? Would this not depend on the intent? Would it make a difference if it was a man doing it or a woman doing it? Steven Malcolm Anderson the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · November 21, 2005 06:07 PM 8o (jaw-dropped googly eyes), SMA. Interesting factoid that I did NOT learn in health class: Some women don't have a hymen while still being virgins. It has to do with a rambunctious toddlerhood. B. Durbin · November 21, 2005 09:27 PM |
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More than I'd ever really wanted to know on the subject of virginity.