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August 07, 2007
Mutilating the gender normative narrative
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.I've always been a bit skeptical about the transgender phenomenon, because I've known male-to-females who have been bitterly disappointed with the results, and who confided in me that they wouldn't have had the surgery if they had the choice to do it all over again. However, the transsexuals I knew were all adults when they decided. A new and emerging (and controversial) treatment is changing that, by interrupting and shortcircuiting the process of sexual maturation: The preferred drug for the controversial process is Lupron Depot. Slogan for the pediatric version: "Pause the child within." It's potent, yet reversible, and incredibly expensive, and for transgender kids backed by increasingly supportive parents, it's ushering in a new era. Boys who've always known they were girls won't get beards or deep voices. Girls who feel like boys will never have to grow breasts or tinker with a tampon.My concern is that there are always certain individuals who cannot handle being effeminate males or masculine females, who feel pressured by society to fit in, and who, without fully thinking it through, can commit themselves to "conform" to something external to their individual uniqueness. While opponents of sex change surgery are generally stereotyped as religious, certain radical feminists oppose it too. And the high rate of dissatisfaction with the results confirms the anecdotal evidence with which I'm familiar. Too many times, I think people feel pressured into accepting the premise that it is "wrong" for a man to be like a woman, or vice versa, and that they gravitate towards a surgical solution in order to be "normal." (And conforming.) Considering that this occurs in adults, how could anyone predict what might be happening with a child? Might this same "desire to be normal" be even more overwhelming in children? Back to SF Weekly: Some doctors say kids need to experience puberty to truly know if they're misplaced in their bodies, and warn that the long-term side effects of diverting nature's route are still unknown. A few doctors believe medicine should never intervene to change a person's body to match gender identity, no matter the age -- what one transwoman doctor dubbed the "you should be what God made you regardless of how miserable you are" camp. Paul McHugh, the psychiatrist who spearheaded the closure of the sexual reassignment clinic at Johns Hopkins Hospital in the 1970s, is an appointee to the President's Council on Bioethics. He calls the Lupron treatment "a modern form of child abuse."And what are the right kids? The mom of one says she just knew her child was the right child, because she wanted to be a boy: When she saw an astronaut, politician, or athlete on the TV, she said, "I want to do that!" "Of course you can!" the mothers would answer. She ignored dolls, but loved trucks. Somewhere around age two and a half, Marty refused to raise her arms when her mother tried to put a dress on her, the first time she'd ever rejected an outfit. One day out of the blue, she looked her mother in the eye and asked, "When is it my turn to be a boy?"I've known a lot of boys who were sissies from day one. I can't tell you how many effeminate gay men have told me over the years that they wanted to be a girl, but eventually realized they were just effeminate gay men. This would appear to be confirmed by a study mentioned in the article: With studies showing anywhere from 75 to nearly 90 percent of children with gender-variant behavior will eventually be comfortable with their biological sex, tight screening is key.Should these children be "fixed"? Again, why? I'm skeptical about this, because it strikes me as the epitome of what many activists would condemn as "gender normative." It begs the question of whose gender normativeness is to be considered normative. I'd like to think that there are parents out there who might be brave enough to defy the normal gender normative narrative, and simply reassure their children that there's no rule saying that just because you want to be a woman you should remove your dick, or that just because you want to be a man you should remove your breasts. Of course, I'm not telling anyone what they should do. This whole thing begs the question of what is conformity. While it may sound politically counterintuitive, there's even an indication that some transgendered activists are uneasy about the possibility of such early treatments wiping out transgenderism! After living 17 years as a male, followed by years of hormones to transition, Alexis Rivera of the Transgender Law Center says she decided to go off hormones and settle into a space somewhere between male and female, and now at 29, has proudly done so.I'm glad to see genetic sex earth-walkers speaking up before it's too late. UPDATE: My thanks to Clayton Cramer for the link. His additional observations are also worth reading. posted by Eric on 08.07.07 at 10:28 AM
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We should leave kids alone...and I mean alone After reading "As nature made him, the boy who was raised as a girl" I think there is too much "hard wiring" to go screwing around with chemical-du-jour or scalpel sculpturing. The sexes are different, but within each sex is a large range so there is going to be overlap between the sexes... "masculine female/feminine male" .... today "transgender" smacks of fashion rather than good science. Darleen · August 8, 2007 01:24 AM A number of things: You're quoting a 20 year old paper (dated 1986) where only 1/3 of those who had surgery had a functional vagina at the end of it. No wonder they weren't happy! Surgical outcome was disappointing, and only one-third of the patients where a vaginal construction was carried out had a functioning vagina. Yet only 1/3 were unhappy with the results, despite the surgical failure: Thus for a total of four individuals (30%), sex reassignment was considered retrospectively to be a mistake. A sample size of 12 isn't wonderful, but given the small size of the global population in question, reasonable, and I have no doubts the results were accurate. A sample size of 1700 over 30 years is better though. See See Friedemann Pfäfflin, Astrid Junge Regarding the global percentages of satisfactory results they range from 71,4% for females and 89,5% for males in the early reviews (Pauly 1968,1971; Lundström et al., 1984) and 87% for females and 97% for males in the newest review that contains only follow-up studies of the last decade (Green & Fleming, 1990). Satisfaction has a strong correlation with surgical results. Now onto a personal note. As Alan K has said, my transition wasn't intentional. I'd known since age 7 that I should have been born female, but I figured that I wasn't, so just had to live with it. Yes, it was Hellish, but I didn't realise just how bad until I was given a taste of the alternative. That I realised that there *was* an alternative. Once I did, it was as unstoppable as an avalanche. This was no great tragedy, rather an unbelievable, impossible miracle that has taught me the meaning of Happiness. I never knew what that word meant before, you see. Zoe Brain · August 8, 2007 03:21 AM Zoe Brain · August 8, 2007 03:25 AM MY concern is whether children and teenagers have the mental faculty, maturity and stability to make such important life-changing decisions. If young people are not considered legally capable of making informed, rational decisions regarding alcohol, sexual relations or operating vehicles, what more their entire biological future? We all know quickly youngsters can do a 180-degree turn from love it to hate it. Not all of sexual preferences and behaviour are programmed in the DNA or the womb, despite what may be hitting the headlines recently. 100%-nature or 100%-nurture is seldom correct, almost by default. It's a similar concern among conservative parents: "What if my little boy isn't really gay, but mixing with older homosexual friends influences him to decide he is homosexual too?" And if we look at it from the other end of the scalpel, why the focus on 'fixing' the body to suit the mind, and not 'fixing' the mental gender to suit the body? (Or perhaps not just the body, but the entire genetic code when the technology becomes viable?) Hypothetically, when the procedures to rewire both the mind and body become legally available, will we see the end of static gender as we know it? And from there on, will we see the emergence of a new race of Aryan super-men and -women who can afford the opeations that turn them into physically, mentally perfect specimens? Scott · August 8, 2007 04:35 AM For some boys and girls, it's obvious, and well before age 10. It wasn't for me: though had the information been available now in 1970, then yes, I would have wanted my puberty put in "deep freeze" until the age of majority. But I would have waited till age 18 before hormones, and 19 before surgery. I've always been conservative. When I was in Thailand recently having revision surgery - something necessary with my surgeon about 1 time in 200, and he does it free - I met a girl there, with her mother. She had surgery the day before her 17th birthday. But it was totally obvious she was TS, she'd lived as a girl since age 8. My condition was nowhere near that obvious, not even to me. I agree that one has to check, double-check, and triple check. But gonadotrophins allow a "breathing space" of 3-6 years before hormones are used which will cause permanent changes. As far as I'm concerned, old enough to marry = old enough to start HRT. Remember that HRT also requires intense psychological check-up and peer-reviewed authorisation. Unlike marriage. One has to balance the risk of harm to a merely gay or lesbian child through a delayed puberty, with the near certainty of death for children with intense TS who doesn't get treatment. The balance point depends on individual circumstances. It's a tough call. Get it wrong one way, you possibly cause psychological damage to hundreds of kids. Possibly. Get it wrong the other way, and you certainly kill dozens. In fact, you'll probably do damage to a dozen, and certainly kill a couple, even if you get the balance right. It's not an exact science. Zoe Brain · August 8, 2007 07:34 AM Not to mention, Zoe, the wide array of negative aspects even 'successful' doses can have. Lupron's use in sexually normal autistic individuals or non-heteronormative neurotypical individuals tends to lead to some rather nasty effects. I think you've overstated the negative effects when this sorta treatment is avoided. While there's an increased chance of suicide in all transexual individuals, the correlation between suicide and puberty isn't nearly as cut-and-dry. In the vast majority of cases, the negative statistical effects can be dealt with by changing gender roles without physical alterations, while merely leaving individuals in previous gender roles does not provide the same results even if they don't approach puberty (although there's a large degree of selection bias in every study on the matter). gattsuru · August 10, 2007 01:21 AM Post a comment
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Eric, for a different viewpoint you really should look into the story of Zoe Ellen Brain (born Alan E. Brain). In short, it started with March of 2005 when Alan started taking Lipitor for high cholesterol. By the time his doctor figured out what was happening things had progressed too far to be reversed.
For all the measures taken to prevent mistakes, mistakes keep getting made. Changing gender is also difficult even when things go smoothly. Bigotry, ignorance. Then add the petty crap women get from certain elements 'most everywhere. What once looked to be the solution turns out to be less than what a person expected.
Until we learn to trust ourselves we are going to have problems like this. Let us hope that one day we do learn to truly accept ourselves as we are.