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January 29, 2007
First it was Bush fascism! Now it's a "fight for survival"!
The hilarious Chris Hedges (whose views I ridiculed as the "final countdown to Bush Fascism") just can't seem to get enough. Of what? Humor, hopes Clayton Cramer, as he waits for Hedge's punchline and links Eugene Volokh's discussion of some truly horrendous anti-free speech remarks by Hedges. From Hedges' book (American Fascists): This is the awful paradox of tolerance. There arise moments when those who would destroy the tolerance that makes an open society possible should no longer be tolerated. They must be held accountable by institutions that maintain the free exchange of ideas and liberty.Wait a second! The "radical Christian right" consists of a few loony tunes like the death-penalty-for-sodomy Michael Marcavage, the late R.J. Rushdoony, and maybe Fred Phelps. They're watched by tens of millions? Hedges must mean Pat Robertson (although to be fair I have never heard the latter advocate the death penalty for homosexuals). How would the Hedges anti-fascist fairness doctrine work in his case? Who gets to debate him Michelangelo SIgnorile? Or Hugo Chavez? More from the Hedges book: They must be denied the right to demonize whole segments of American society, saying they are manipulated by Satan and worthy only of conversion or eradication....Denied the right to demonize whole segments of society? But isn't that what Hedges is doing? I wrote a post about the Mayor of Moscow's silly statements that gay parades are "Satanic," and much as I disagreed with him, it would never occur to me that he shouldn't have been free to say that. As a matter of fact, I just concluded that in America anyone can say anyone is Satanic, and "calling people Satanists is as American as apple pie." That goes for Bush, Kerry, anyone! (They've been called worse things.) So where does this leave me? Who does Hedges think I shouldn't be allowed to call Satanic? Hedges? Hedges, you are Satanic! There. I said it. Do I get to go to jail? Or will he just force me to have a leftie co-blogger assigned to criticize what I say? (I guess he means the latter, although the insanity of this is a little mind-boggling.) From Hedges' NPR radio interview, Volokh has some hilarious quotes. He gets to Rushdoony: Mr. HEDGES: I think that, you know, in a democratic society, people don't have a right to preach the extermination of others, which has been a part of this movement of - certainly in terms of what should be done with homosexuals. You know, Rushdoony and others have talked about 18 moral crimes for which people should be executed, including apostasy, blasphemy, sodomy, and all - in order for an open society to function, it must function with a mutual respect, with a respect...A fight for survival? Between homosexuals and R.J. Rushdoony? The man has been dead for six years now, and I think the number of his followers would be in the hundreds. Ditto the Klan. I can understand why a lot of people might be offended by what they say, and it's always tempting to want to shut up people like Fred Phelps, but a fight for survival? Who is Hedges kidding? I'm inclined to agree with Clayton Cramer that it's Hedges who's the fascist. And, just as I agreed with the ACLU that the Nazis had the right to parade in Skokie, IL, I think Hedges has the right to perform his verbal goose steps on NPR. Without having to allow Fred Phelps equal time. I'm also hoping this is comedy. (There's been a lot of it going around lately.) posted by Eric on 01.29.07 at 06:55 PM
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There are examples of "Christians" calling for the death of homosexuals. There are examples of Christians who are listened to by millions. But I can't for the life of me remember any examples of Christians who are listened to by millions who call for the murder of homosexuals. Why won't any reporter ask this nutjob for an example of this? Are the only people ever to be asked skeptical questions going to be from the right? Speaking of questions that should be asked, I'd like to see him be asked weather Muslims and muslim organizations who have called for the death of large segments of the population (including country-sized segments) should be subjected to the same rules. I admit, just seeing the bigot squirm would be worth the price of admission. Ryan Waxx · January 30, 2007 03:39 AM I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that Mr. Hedges' general political philosophy is the variation of State socialism that in America goes by the name of "liberalism." I'm wondering if he's similar to the "liberal" who wrote an article for a local publication denouncing the Christian Right for fascist tendencies, but seemed most dismayed that the Christian Right spokespeople the article focused on also believed in free-market economics. So I guess to "liberals" one of the main problems with the Christian Right is that it isn't fascist enough. Bilwick · January 30, 2007 09:29 AM He's just like most people I know, actually. He believes in free speech, as long as what is said doesn't offend him. Jon Thompson · January 30, 2007 11:48 AM I've heard of this Rushdoony loony, once or twice - usually in the context of "now that's just plain dumb". How Mr Hedges figures that he's a vital influence on the American public is beyond me. On the other hand, I haven't heard of Hedges until now. It's not surprising that he gets air time on NPR. ZZMike · January 30, 2007 02:31 PM |
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