I keep looking out the window to see if the pigs have flown by yet.

But, actually, I'm not at all surprised by the Democrats behavior. That's the purpose of identity politics. This is the end result.

But why gay activists think that Republicans are anti-gay because of the gay marriage issue never ceases to confuse me. I suppose if someone is against reparations or affirmative action for blacks or if a black person works for a republican who opposes those things, that makes them a sell out.

And it does. Look at the crap LaShawn Barber has to put up with.

It will never end. Until we stop looking at someone's race, sex, or sexual preference as entitling them to anything extra or special, this will continue to happen. Entitlements are the opposite side of the segregation coin.

Communists and socialists have been treating homosexuals as criminals since their formation. Yeah, the USSR eventually decriminalized homosexuality. They reclassified it as a incurable disease and put people in asylums instead. In China the punishment for homosexual acts is death.

How gays and lesbians in America ever got the idea that the socialists were their friends ASTOUNDS me.

Excuse me, but the Republicans have spent the last few years demonizing gays and the gay "sexual agenda". They have put forth and passed many laws against gay marriage, and have even tried to amend the Constitution of the United States in the process.

It is sad that leftists are outing the gays among the Republicans. That is wrong and will come back to bite them.

But guess what? The religious extremists that the Republicans have catered to and nurtured want those outed gays expelled from the party and positions of power!

Surpised? The chickens have come home to roost, and the Republicans have only themselves to blame.

Trying to distract the country by appealling to the prejudices of the "family values" crowd can only work for a while. Seeing sons and daughters being flown off to a war with no end strikes to the heart of much deeper family values. That sacrifice is being ignored. It is going to be a "comma" in history.

So please, don't act all surprised. You've encouraged the fear and loathing. Now those same phobias are being used against you. You've taught the extreme left well.

Too bad there are no real accomplishments for the Republicans to fall back on.

Enjoy the election.

Guess what. I don't hate gays, yet I oppose gay marriage. Sorry to burst your moral bubble.

I forget ... which party had a KKK Kleagel as a long-serving member? Musta been the Baath party.

"Homosexual witch hunts should have died with McCarthy"

Huh? Is this claiming that McCarthy persecuted homosexuals? I don't think it was McCarthy who hounded the hell out of Roy Cohn... and it wasn't the Right that smeared J Edgar Hoover as a tranvestite without any evidence...

Fact is, it's been the Left that has been outing and mocking homosexuals since, well, always. I am not able to think of a single instance where the Right treated a homosexual with the same ferocity that the Left treated Roy Cohn, J Edgar Hoover or Foley.

Qwinn

Eric D,

In Louisiana the marriage amendment passed by over 70%. There aren't that many Republicans in Louisiana.

It passed by closer margins in New Orleans, but it still passed. Are you suggesting that the most decadent city in America is against sex?

The gay marriage issue is one where the activists misjudged the temperature of the water. Over 70% of the country is against the idea and that INCLUDES democrats.

What the activists did was a HUGE mistake. They not only missed the brass ring they were reaching for, they set back partnership agreements 50 years. The fact is there ARE activists with an agenda. That does not mean that there aren't other activists with an honest agenda, but people have reason to be suspicious.

People said "no" and the people who said that were the vast majority of the country. So don't blame all of that on the "religious right." The activists who attempted to circumvent our system by using activist judges bear the brunt of the blame.

Are you suggesting that "Heather Has Two Mommies" or GLSEN don't exist? It doesn't have to be representative to scare people or validate the legitmacy of teaching a form of decadence, straight or gay. Did GLSEN not know that one of the contributing authors to "Two Teenagers in 20: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth" was affiliated with NAMBLA (Bill Andriette)? If not, then they SHOULD have. It's either blindlingly stupid or deceptive. WHICH?

Are plays like "Vagina Monologues" in which a woman talks about seducing a teenager acceptable to the American public? NO! An adult seducing a teenager is wrong, regardless if it is practiced by straights or gays.

So the gay marriage argument against the "religious right" is specious. You can support the civil rights of all and be against social reeingeering.

Well, I'd love to think that homosexuals aren't persecuted in America, but the fact is, they are, at least somewhat.

When was the last time you heard of an openly gay movie star?

Now, when was the last time you heard of an openly Jewish or other non-Christian movie star? Also, when was the last time you heard of a creepy, short guy with a crazy ass pseudo religion who wanted to eat his wife's placenta and made fun of Brook Shields for being depressed after her baby was born?

My point is, you can be a crazy Scientologist all you want (well, not ALL you want, he probably went too far based on his box office numbers), but Tom Cruise will sue your ass in a heart beat if you say he's gay.

Ok. So. Some Democrats are bigots too. Gays are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

And Squealer was seen descending the ladder with white paint smearing his jowls and when Boxer looked at the new 7 Commandments, he couldn't remember exactly, but they sure did look different.

1) Sexual harassment by powerful officials is bad,... except if the victim is "trailer trash", then they asked for it.

2) Intentionally misleading the public is no different than an outright lie, it is always to be condemned, ....except when Napoleon needs to do it, long live Napoleon.

3) Intentionally targeting gays for "outing" for crass political purposes is evil, mean-spirited, bigoted and dirty politics, ....unless they DESERVE to be targeted because they work for the Snowball.

4) The press has a moral obligation and are guardians of a sacred public trust to expose hypocrisy, unfairness, deceit, and biased propaganda....unless they are called upon by Napoleon to prostitute themselves and engage in it.

5)Freedom of speech, congregation, religion are sacred foundations of our very constitution...except when animalists are called upon to shout down, denigrate, smear and libel Christians, Jews, Americans and Israelis.

6)War is always evil, we shall never approve picking up a weapon in anger...except when the enemies of America and Israel do it...then it was "deserved".

7)Animalists can call for the destruction of the country and it is not treason, and they are not traitors, how dare anyone say that dissent is traitorous or treasonous...and anyone who dares to dispute any issue that the party takes a position on.... deserves to be treated as a traitor and outed, ousted and destroyed.

Squealer then was looked upon with approval by Napoleon, the dogs all growled menacingly at the the assembled...who all fell in line quietly and sang MoveOn Lemmings March to the Sea.

"When was the last time you heard of an openly gay movie star?"

Um... Sir Ian McKellen? Anne Heche?

Not big enough?

It was actually gay persecution that brought down Joe McCarthy.

Look at the film or trnascrips of Army vs. McCarthy hearings. The whole thing turned around when Roy Cohn was called a "fairy".

Jon

Just off the top of my head

Open gay movie stars: Rupert Everett, Harvey Fierstein, Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres

Jewish: Ben Stiller, Adam Sandler, Woody Allen, Gene Wilder, Mel Brooks, the Marx Brothers

And remember that Tom's nuttiness has affected his bottom line.

and, btw, if reparations are on the table

I want mine.

Aside from the general vileness of demanding that people adopt a certain belief system, assign certain priorities to those beliefs (with same sex marriage at the top, of course), and vote a certain way just because of their sexual orientation, what gets me about these leftists is that they're saying that gays are obligated to act in their own self interest. I mean... what? This from a group of people in love with wealth redistribution? Is this seriously something they want to encourage? (Okay, I already know the answer: only when it's convenient for them.)

And shouldn't wealthy gays get a pass when they vote Republican, then?

Eric D. said:

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Seeing sons and daughters being flown off to a war with no end strikes to the heart of much deeper family values. That sacrifice is being ignored. It is going to be a "comma" in history.
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I knew full well when I enlisted that I may have to fight a war. It's *you*, not Bush or the Republican party, who is belittling our sacrifice, by ignoring the reasons for it and most of all by using it as nothing more than a political weapon. If *I* die fighting for my country, I sure as hell don't want my death used as a stick to beat my own Commander-in-Chief with. Quit pretending to give a damn about the troops. We despise you.

Thanks for visiting, ProudPrivate.

I think that what would really ignore the sacrifice of the troops would be any "Exit Strategy" short of solid victory.

Poor Sir Ian McKellen, if only our country wasn't so horrifically intolerant of gays, maybe all those christian protests of the Lord of the Rings movies and the X-Men movies wouldn't have happened. Maybe production wouldn't have had to have been cancelled on Two Towers, Return of the King, X-men 2 and X-Men 3. I bet X-Men 3 would have been a good movie... if only the evil devilmonster homophobes in America could handle a gay actor playing Magneto or Gandalf. Why are we so hateful?