Actually, it is the Luddites who would castrate civilization!

I stumbled onto a disturbing transhumanist idea I'd rather leave alone. But if I left it alone, it might gain momentum in the transhumanist, singulatarian, um, "community."

While I doubt I'm much of a member of this community, I am certainly more sympathetic to it than I am to its polar opposite -- the Luddites and NeoLuddites who want to halt or retard human technological progress for a variety of reasons.

The idea I don't like is this: certain transhumanist singulatarian types are claiming that men would be better off without their balls.

Yes, I'm afraid a man named "Cybert" has devoted a post to this topic. No armchair eunuch he, Cybert has also had himself castrated:

It was done a few years ago, in my mid 20's. From my understanding of biology, the fact that it was done well after puberty make a big difference. My voice is not any higher. I still grow a beard. I can even still have sex/masturbate. Only difference is no liquid comes out. But libido in general is way down. I find myself thinking of transhumanism a lot more. Not in that it will restore libido virtually, just in that my mind isn't distracted.
While I could make hair-splitting arguments over the definition of "distractions," there's an emotional side of me that just plain does not like this.

I think having yourself castrated is a bad idea, and I disagree with the central philosophical argument (which Cybert offers by way of self-definition):

About Cybert

Eunuch. An important first step to transhumanism.

Wrong!

First, as a practical idea castration is dreadful, for the future will require men of strength (warriors and pioneers), and strength requires testosterone. The effects of castration include loss of physical as well as mental strength, loss of bone density, weight gain, and a whole host of other unpleasant things. As a libertarian, I probably wouldn't intervene to stop any man from doing that to himself, but I certainly wouldn't consider him an appropriate candidate for a space colony!

Practical considerations aside, as a political idea, I think the idea of futuristic castration would only have, well, an emasculating effect!

Imagine, for example, if Andrew Keen, Christine Rosen, and the rest of the NeoLuddites found out about this! Why, they'd probably accuse Glenn Reynolds of seeking to lead an Army not of Davids, but of David's eunuchs.

While it would be unreasonable to accuse Glenn of hegemony through castration, he's been accused of worse things, so I wouldn't put it past them.

My natural inclination is not to write a post about this topic, and to engage in self censorship.

But that's the coward's way out!

And I wouldn't like not having the balls to criticize eunuchs, for what would that make me? A eunuch's eunuch? (A eunuch's bitch, even?)

I must therefore stand up to the eunuchs, and declare that this castrate-yourself-for-the-future idea should be confronted, and rejected, and I don't care what the Luddites think or say!

Besides, if we use simple logic, I think Luddites have to be seen as more on the side of castration -- precisely because of their goal of rolling back history. Castration is one of those old and tired ideas which died out as man made progress.

Far from being a future trend, castration is a barbaric ancient practice -- a form of depraved sexual brutality about as backward as man can get -- something Luddites who would return us to the past would do well to consider.

A number of forward-thinking Roman Emperors -- notably Hadrian -- tried to put a stop to castrations and it's beyond dispute that eunuchs were much hated by ordinary Romans. But the practice wasn't stopped by Christianity, and didn't quite die out in the West until the last of the castrati died early in the 20th century.

I think it's an idea without much of a future.

(At least I hope so.)

MORE: A typical accusation leveled at accused transhumanist/singulatarian "techno-triumphalists" is that they "see robotic solutions everywhere."

(Isn't that better than creating eunuchs to be used as sex slaves?)

UPDATE (07/03/06): Major breakthrough in bionic limbs was announced. Transhumanism is closer than we realize.

UPDATE (07/15/07): Tammy Bruce discusses the latest castration news -- this yahoo story about a ghoulish plan to exhume and study Italian castrato Farinelli. I fail to see how medical science is advanced in any way by studying the skeletal remains of a castrated man, and I agree with Tammy that it's "wrong and completely unnecessary."

posted by Eric on 07.02.06 at 03:04 PM





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Ive got a CD of Allesandro Moreschi recordings from the Vatican archives. The quality of the castrato's voice is very strange. Its high pitched yet has the the resonant robustness of a set of full sized adult male lungs. That said, its not what youd consider great singing by todays standards.

In any case, history has generally shown that those societies that fail to reproduce, fail to continue existing. I say if someone is goofy enough to castrate themselves, they probably should be reproducing anyway and we're all better off for it.

Mick   ·  July 2, 2006 05:46 PM

Mick your reproductive logic is unassailable.

Regarding the castrati, a number of important musical scores were composed with specific parts for them which today probably don't sound quite the way they were intended. Handel's operas are a good example:

http://www.peabodyopera.org/essays/handel05/

Handel’s heroes are not your regular guys. In Italian opera seria of the eighteenth century, it was virtually de rigueur that the leading male role should be sung by a castrato — a singer who has received a surgical operation in childhood to preserve the purity of the treble voice, coupled with the lung-power of a grown man. Secondary male roles might be sung either by another castrato, or by a female singer en travesti. Baritones and basses were reserved for older men and villains. And the tenor, who was to become the operatic hero of the nineteenth century, was largely confined to the most minor roles in the eighteenth.
Eric Scheie   ·  July 2, 2006 07:29 PM

Yeah, unlike today the high pitched voice of the hero in opera was considered a manly, heroic trait. It was thought to be angelic and virtuous (etymology of virtuoso if I remember correctly). This tradition continued in opera as late as Wagner.

Just noticed my previous comment should read "probably should NOT be reproducing".

Mick   ·  July 2, 2006 08:34 PM

Oh yeah, regarding the recordings, there were some stylistically odd ornamentations in the castrato recordings that really wouldnt be indicated on the score. Portamentos and trills that sound strange to modern ears.

Locally weve got a Baroque ensemble that plays all period instruments with gut strings instead of steel or nylon, lutes with gut frets, winds without tuning adjustments, the whole deal. A new listeners first impression of a performance is 'sloppy'. The instruments of that day simply didnt tune as well as todays do.

Mick   ·  July 2, 2006 08:41 PM

I read it as should NOT be, and if you hadn't told me I'd have missed the error entirely. (I miss words a lot, racing ahead after seeing what I expect. Or thinking I wrote what I expected, then seeing it as I expected to see it and missing my own errors many times!)

I'd love to see that Baroque ensemble.

Eric Scheie   ·  July 3, 2006 12:13 AM
Mick   ·  July 3, 2006 01:39 AM

I think the great benefit of castration is a lower sex drive. For young men, that can be a great boon to productivity (well, of everything but children).

On the other hand, as a firm believer in a posthuman future, I'm willing to wait for drugs that allow me to alter neuro-chemical levels at my choosing, rather than altering myself through grotesque, irreversible, surgery.

Jon Thompson   ·  July 3, 2006 12:59 PM


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