A big carnival for a big debate

Glenn Reynolds' Pre War Intelligence Carnival has been posted at OSM.org. It's huge, with lots of posts on both sides. How Glenn managed to tackle a project of this size I don't know, but he did a great job, and I thank him for including the post I wrote over the weekend.

And here are the posts which stood out for me:

  • Tiger Hawk thinks there's nothing wrong with manipulating intelligence to advance a war in furtherance of the national interest -- unless of course the war itself is nefarious. Which means that those who claim to support the war shouldn't be complaining about manipulated intel.
  • Bad Hair Blog says wars aren't won by talking withdrawal.


  • If you really want an all-encompassing scoop on the Bush Lied meme, this one's it. As Glenn says, it's a "carnival inside of a carnival." Excerpt:
    ....we have found nerve agents in roadside bombs, a large chemical weapons factory in Mosul, 1.7 metric tons of enriched uranium, parts for gas centrifuges, yellowcake uranium from Iraq in Rotterdam, and the parts of long range missiles (pdf) he wasn't supposed to have. Also I would remind the reader that Iraq had a history of using chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds and had an advanced nuclear project in the 80's before Israel bombed it.
  • Vik Rubenfeld asks why the reports that WMD facilities were busted up and shipped out of Iraq during the war have been ignored. Excellent question! (And if I could hazard a guess, maybe the reason the reports are ignored is because they undermine the meme of an innocent Saddam with no WMDs....)
  • Donald Sensing (who has a son serving in Iraq) is incensed at the Democrats' Monday morning quarterbacking, and reminds them that "the only reason we have certainty now about Saddam’s WMD programs is because we invaded Iraq."
  • JP at Americans for Freedom reminds us of Richard Clarke's forgotten "boogie to Baghdad" remark, and that 50 million Muslims are now free.
  • Sissy Willis takes a feline approach to Lanny Davis, and ends up liking Lanny, but I wondered whether she was just playing with her food! (A fun post -- except Glenn just had to go and interject how he preferred puppies! If you ask me, it's a pretty gruesome way to promote blender sales....)
  • Did Bush lie? "Just Google it!" says SoCalPundit. (One of the things I like most about Google is that it allows any blogger to produce professionally researched polls with a minimum of time, and zero overhead!)
  • USS Neverdock says that the "Bush lied" campaign has collapsed. Really? So how come they don't know? Maybe no one has told them!
  • This Carnival covers every question you could possibly ask about pre-war intelligence, and many that you'd have never thought to ask. Much as I dislike debates, this one has been forced upon everyone, and the blogosphere is more than living up to its part.


    UPDATE: I almost missed Laurence Simon's "Let's ask the cats about pre-war intelligence failures" post, but Glenn linked it at InstaPundit.

    They say that curiosity killed the cat, and while I don't normally stick my nose where it doesn't belong, I cannot say the same thing for my dog Coco. Right now, she's making a lot of noise in the background, and that's because because she takes issue with the cat Laurence calls "Haley" who states:

    My two secret agents here gave me faulty info. I told them to sniff out the weapons of mass destruction. I should have realized that when they said they found the mother load, they meant shredded cheese, not shredded documents.
    Coco wants the whole world to know that she has no fear of shredded documents, nor any fear of shredders for that matter. She leaves no stone unturned in her dogged determination to rid the world of bad documents, while valiantly attempting to save the good ones from the shredder!

    CocoShreds3.jpg

    So brave is Coco that I don't think she'd fear a huge plastic shredder.

    Me, Ow!

    posted by Eric on 11.21.05 at 01:20 PM





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    One day, someone nuttier than me will Ask The Dogs.

    Laurence Simon   ·  November 21, 2005 04:37 PM

    Well, I already ask them. It's just that I'm not sure the judgmental world out there would believe my translations of their answers.

    :)

    Eric Scheie   ·  November 21, 2005 04:59 PM

    More Coco pics, please. Coco had me at hello. She had me at hello. Maybe a post on her as a puppy compared to now? Also, while you're at it, could you maybe recommend an obedience book or philosophy?

    Harkonnendog   ·  November 22, 2005 05:53 PM

    I'm delighted you like Coco -- and I'll try to get some more pics up.

    For athletic, stubborn dogs like pit bulls, I recommend the Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training, if you can get a copy. A former Disney trainer, Koehler has the principles down, and really knows the inside of the canine mind. He thought that if trained properly, pit bulls were among the best shutzhund quality dogs.

    Eric Scheie   ·  November 22, 2005 08:42 PM

    Amazingly, even though it's out of print, I found it at Amazon!

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0876055528/103-7678534-5523812?v=glance&n=283155&%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance

    (Koehler died years ago, but his wisdom lives on in his book.)

    Eric Scheie   ·  November 22, 2005 08:46 PM


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