Teach your children where violence comes from . . .

From the mouths of children in the Red Lake School District, here are the top two "Winning student essays on domestic violence."

RLES

Indians didn’t use violence in the olden days. It is bad. Indians only used violence for hunting and fishing. We can be non-violent by trying to make good choices.

Sara Seki

1st Place

Red Lake Elementary School


RLES

Long ago Indians didn’t use violence in their families. Violence was only used for war, hunting and fishing rights. Men, women and children were treated fairly. We learned violence from the Europeans. We can overcome violence by relearning the traditional ways of life.

Abby Seki

2nd Place

Red Lake Elementary School

Violence is learned? Does that mean it's someone else's fault? Are "the Europeans" also responsible for the recent shooting incident at the school?

It's hard to know where to start, but I hate to think that's what they're teaching the kids.

UPDATE: The shooter, a 17 year old Indian student named Jeff Weise, was initially described as 15 years old. According to this account, he went by the name "NaziNative" and left posts like this:

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Re: What is your heritage?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 19th, 2004, 1:30pm » Quote Quote Modify Modify
Both my parents were Native American, though from what I understand I also have a little German, a little Irish, and a little French Canadian in my blood as well.
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As the Nazi website is pulling the posts, I decided to reproduce them here:

Here's a "philosphical" discussion:

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Re: Can you name the philosopher?
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on Jun 3rd, 2004, 6:42am, richyrichard wrote:
He sounds like an injun!

Anyway, I believe it was Hippocrates who came up with the 4 elements of earth, water, air, and fire and drew many parallels to this.

Man has his physical, emotional, intellectual, and spiritual aspects seen as the earth element, water element, air element, and fire element, respectively.

We eat the properties of the earth, inhale the air into our lungs, drink the water, and bask in the sunlight. Our exterior world is man turned inside out backwards. Man is the environment turned right side in. Sort of like turning a sock inside out and then right side in again. One is the inverted reflection of the other.

Man IS the environment. As man becomes disorderly, so does his exterior world.

The subjective world is the world of concepts and principalities, i.e., subjects. The objective world is the world of specifics, form, and substance, i.e., objects.

Subjectivity, objectivity. Objectivity, subjectivity. The subject is not without the object, and the object is not without the subject. A secret of power: alter the subject, and you alter the object.


Injun? You mean "Enjun"? Get your racial slurrs right, lol.

Either way, I too agree with the philosopher... I can't put a name to the words though.
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"Obstacles do not exist to be surrendered to, but only to be broken."
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Interestingly enough, the Green Nazi site to which he posts has been mentioned by at least one commenter in this blog.

Crazy as the Greenie Weenie Nazis are, I can't blame this shooting on them -- any more than I blame Michael Moore. Jeff Weise is the one I blame.

UPDATE: Dave Neiwert is blaming people other than Jeff Weise:

This is an unusual case in that it involves a minority, but that only illustrates the larger point: Hateful far-right philosophies poison many wells, and are clearly capable of crossing boundaries. (Another prime example of this is the African-American hate cult calling itself the United Nuwabian Nation of Moors.)

Weise's hostility to multiculturalism was well fed by what he could find on the Internet, the bulk of which was produced by white supremacists, including an outfit called Nazi.org, the National Alliance, and Don Black's neo-Nazi Stormfront organization. You remember: the same folks who broke up Jesse Jackson's Florida appearance in support of George W. Bush in 2000.

Here's a reality check for the mainstream right: right-wing extremism has always been, and always will be, the most vicious proponent of beliefs that destroy the basic fabric of civilization. They worship violence and bigotry and racial and religious hatred. That's as true in the United States as it is in the Middle East.

When you go looking for threats -- and the people who both associate with and benefit from them -- a good place to start might be the American right's own bloody back yard.

Weise was obviously deranged. I think it's about as fair to blame what he claimed to hate (Multiculturalism) as what he claimed to love (Nazism).

But is it really fair to blame the Internet?

And if we're going to blame the National Alliance, doesn't that mean we have to blame Google?

posted by Eric on 03.22.05 at 07:27 AM





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Anything from the politically correct establishment relating to "domestic violence" blames men per se, in some way. It is presumed that men are the cause of violence. Naturally the "Europeans" does not include women, and tabs the white man as the cause. This is obviously sexist and racist - and unreal. Women are at least as physically aggressive/violent as are men, as we already knew, but also shown further by a compilation of studies involving 152,500 actual people. In addition, children-sibs are some of the worst offenders. Gender makes no difference.

The sexist, racist Violence Against Women Act must be allowed to sunset. Its moral depravity aside, there is no telling how much harm it has done, beyond saying the harm has been legion.

J. Peden   ·  March 23, 2005 12:54 AM

I should add that the Red Lake shootings are not even "domestic violence". Killing your children is not even "domestic violence". It's been correctified to mean only violence against an "intimate" adult who you live or have lived with. What a joke!

J. Peden   ·  March 23, 2005 01:38 AM


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