Ecumenical Raving at the Carnival

This week's Carnival of the Vanities is hosted by The Raving Atheist, who not only does a great job, but was nice enough to allow my late entry. The posts are grouped according to religion (or lack thereof), and mine is in the Pagan category. (I have issues with religious differences, so I "define" myself as an apostate Christian Pagan or an apostate Pagan Christian -- depending on the judgment of the religious judge. This is probably related to my issues over sexual and political "definitions" -- which are too often used not to define, but to induce conformity to the will of others.)

But enough of my definitional ranting. I don't have time to define myself out of existence today.

Go read the Carnival.

And do not be defined!

posted by Eric on 01.26.05 at 02:40 PM





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I just have a couple question, if u don't mind. Where is the next carnival? Do you just submit any post? Can it be some older posts or...

Harkonnendog   ·  January 26, 2005 08:15 PM

The Raving Atheist. Extremely interesting. I have to confess that I haven't been reading The Raving Atheist, or a number of other blogs, nearly as much as I used to or perhaps as much as I should. Due to certain times constraints, I have been mainly restricting my reading and comments to a very few blogs, Classical Values being one of them, and also Dean and the Queen. Even so, I'm still spending way too much time reading and commenting in blogs instead of writing in my own blog and other things I need to be doing. I'm starting to write about spectrums there now.

Wanda likes the Raving Atheist. ha! ha!

Thanks Steven! If you don't pay enough attention to the other blogs because of Classical Values, then all I can say is that their misfortune is my good fortune!

HD, Carnival information can be found at Bigwig's blog here:

http://silflayhraka.com/archives/006097.html

Eric Scheie   ·  January 27, 2005 02:52 AM

OK, let's split some hairs here:

To be an apostate Christian, you must first have been a Christian to begin with. Is this in fact the case? If not, then you are stuck with the much-less-sexy label of simply Pagan.

And pray tell, what does that really MEAN? Pagan. Paganus. Someone from the Pagus. Country-folk. Bumpkin.

And do you actually WORSHIP a group of gods, or do you just talk about it because you like to see your Christian friends eyes get big? What does this consist of? Do you do it on a regular basis or just when the spirits move you?

Really, I'm only trying to be difficult here. I really enjoy your blog and think you have a lot of good ideas.

Rod   ·  January 27, 2005 02:06 PM

Thank you Eric!

Harkonnendog   ·  January 27, 2005 08:05 PM

Rod raises some good questions.

To begin with: "Apostate! Apostate!", cries Bishop de Bey as he shakes his fist in rage.

Anyway.... That is what I myself have been saying for some time. A "Pagan" was a country-dweller, rustic, bumpkin, rube, hick, hillbilly, hayseed, a redneck, a Red Stater. "Pagans" were those who held fast to their old Gods, the Gods worshipped by their forefathers, instead of going for strange cults from the East. In other words, they were Conservatives. Ironically perhaps, the closest equivalent today to the Pagans are traditional and fundamentalist Christians.

I don't know whether I'm an apostate Pagan or an apostate Christian! I've been both, and I don't see why the two must be at war -- especially at this point in history. Where did Jesus ever condemn Pagans?

Eric Scheie   ·  February 1, 2005 12:17 AM


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