Some of these Ayatollahs


Some of these Ayatollahs are pretty lively characters....

Events keep confirming my pessimistic view that compromise with religious fundamentalists is utterly impossible. It would seem that on this point at least, the fundamentalists agree with me. I guess I should be thankful that we still have the First Amendment.

First, (from Instapundit) there's this none-too-magnanimous letter to Jonah Goldberg:

No clear-thinking person believes that the homosexual sexual ethic and that of the family-based society can peacefully coexist. The opposing presuppositions about sexuality, marriage, family and culture inherent in these world views are contradictory and mutually exclusive. One must prevail at the expense of the other.
Scott Lively, Founder, Abiding Truth Ministries. Director, AFA, California.

We can't "peacefully coexist?" "One must prevail at the expense of the other?" What does this language mean? Speaking that way -- in the name of any religion -- evokes very dark periods in history, as well as recent periods in the past:

"Death to compromisers!" -- Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini

At least guys like Mr. Lively can't issue fatwas against those they deem heretical. What really gets me is what I blogged about yesterday -- the sneaky and underhanded way the radical fundamentalists, like the Communists whose tactics they share, try to hide their true agenda. They don't merely want to cure homosexuals; they want to imprison those who would refuse their "cure." But they keep hiding it, making it tougher and tougher for the public to catch on -- just as the above letter was printed in the hard copy of the Washington Times but never appeared on their web site.

This forces people to scurry around, combing through some very dreary web sites. I don't like it at all, as I have better things to do with my time.

Anyway, because Scott Lively seems to enjoy evasion and obfuscation, I feel obligated to share the fruits of my research with you.

Meet Scott Lively, the man. If he shuts that down, try this lively page.

His primary organization. (Lively launched Abiding Truth Ministries.) This is the same outfit I have been complaining about for constantly changing its web sites.

Really, it's like pulling teeth getting the truth out of these guys. They want to pose as quasi-medical "helpers" of homosexuals, when in reality they want to imprison them. As I said before, I don't think the goal here is to help homosexuals learn the fine arts of vaginal-penile intercourse.

Lively also argues that Hitler was gay, and he has been pestering Jewish organizations and the National Holocaust Museum to stop portraying homosexuals as Holocaust victims and instead tell the world that the Nazi movement was gay. (A fact which, if true, proves what? That we need to copy Nazi Germany's sodomy laws?)

What this means, of course, is that Mr. Lively is a Holocaust Revisionist. His claim that individual Nazis were homosexuals is about as enlightening as "proof" that some Nazis had Jewish ancestry -- or that some Jews helped carry out the Holocaust.

Interesting that Mr. Lively's book was endorsed by R. J. Rushdoony a man well-known for publicly demanding the death penalty for homosexuals, and (why should this surprise anyone?) for his Holocaust denial. Also (again, not surprisingly) Lively has written for Rushdoony's magazine, The Chalcedon Report.

Forgive me for getting carried away here. I know this blog is supposed to be about Classical Values, but I just get a little hot under the collar when a Holocaust denier accuses me of being part of the Holocaust.

Where was I? Oh yes, here are a couple of pieces of Lively advice:

help for Republicans

Sexual immorality caused Columbine killings. A fascinating rebuttal to the famous Michael Moore thesis that Columbine was caused by the guns themselves.


Has anyone ever heard of blaming the murderers?

I thought I was being a bit hard on the fundamentalists yesterday, because for the life of me I try to be fair and I dislike attacking anyone's sincere religious beliefs.

However, sodomy law advocacy goes too far. So does Holocaust denial.

So does threatening my right to peacefully exist.

posted by Eric on 06.24.03 at 09:16 PM










Comments

They are despicable, they are The Enemy, and I'm proud to be intolerant of their kind. Legal toleration (i.e., First Amendment), yes. Any other kind, no, none whatsoever, no quarter, no moral sanction whatsoever, none, period. I'll stop calling what they are, ChristiaNazis, the minute they finally stop acting like Nazis or Communists and not one minute sooner.
And, by the way, the first person to bring up "Goodwin's law" has lost the argument. "Goodwin's law" is a crock, and this Prof. Goodwin is either a crypto-Nazi himself or else at best a useful idiot paving the way for another Auschwitz.

Steven Malcolm Anderson   ·  October 24, 2003 3:18 PM

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