Rating my filth

Naturally, I am fascinated by the InstaLinked experiment InstaPunk posed last night:

I propose an exercise to be perfomed by those who have the software and expertise to carry it out. The exercise is this: Search six months' worth of content, posts and comments, of the 20 most popular blogs on the right and the left. The search criteria are George Carlin's infamous "7 Dirty Words."

I am absolutely certain that the left will far exceed the right in the number of usages of all these words, which will go a long way toward proving that it's the right which is still concerned with ideas while it's the left that's obsessed with the lowest kind of hateful invective.

Anyone care to take up the challenge?

It didn't take long. According to Newsbuckit's survey results that Glenn linked today, the difference is overwhelming.

Naturally, I wanted to see how I ranked. Copying George Carlin's seven dirty words directly into the template, I was shocked by the results -- which indicate 141 uses of these words here at Classical Values.

I wondered what was going on, as I like to think that I take pride in keeping foul language to a minimum. When I began to look closely, I saw that the vast majority of the posts involved either:

  • quotes from other people, or
  • comments left by visitors to the site
  • Even in the foulest-mouthed post I could find that actually consisted of words used by me, I was addressing the use of the "s" word by another blogger.

    Whether it's a good idea for me to quote the foul language of others or allow commenters to use foul language is debatable. But in any case I don't think it is logical to suppose that other people's words are an accurate depiction of what I say. Fortunately, I'm not large enough hits-wise for most people to care very much, which means that if I wanted to be really foul-mouthed, I could get away with it more easily. However, while I don't have an exact estimate, the fact is that I've written millions of words over the years, so looking at the big picture my Carlin rating is pathetically small. In comparison to DailyKos, my rating is so pathetically small as to be infinitessimal. (Daily Kos's 146,000 compared to my 141, is a ratio of more than 1000 to 1!)

    Still, I'm wondering whether there are search commands that rule out quotes and comments, because I just don't think it's fair to use the words of others to rate my language. Especially commenters, because I have absolutely no control over what they say unless I delete them -- which I refuse to do unless my hand is forced. (In fact, if there was an official rating system, someone could easily screw it up by creating a "Comment F*CK bot" to simply insert comments containing the "F" word, which would require installing yet another tedious MT plugin.)

    Of course, as Patterico thoroughly documents, foul-mouthed comments are only held against some bloggers:

    If you are a conservative, they represent you. They represent me. They represent every conservative thinker in the country. The significance of such commenters cannot be overstated. But if the hateful commenters are liberals -- why, then, they're just isolated crackpots who can and should be ignored.
    Via Wuzzadem, who demonstrates these fascinating rules of leftist logic in cartoon format:
    those who rely on anonymous blog comments to make an argument should be presumed to have no argument at all. [...] Unless of course those comments were made by conservatives and one can establish a connection to the content or theme of the blog.
    I don't have time go slog through the relatively few foul-mouthed comments that have been left here to determine the political leanings of the commenters, or whether they agreed with me.

    It is my general policy to try not to police commenters here, and I don't consider myself responsible in any way for anything I have not said. (As I said repeatedly, I was horrified by many of the comments to this post on the Muhammad cartoons, but I left them deliberately, as a sort of permanent archive. They contain 74 uses of the "F" word alone.)

    I especially appreciated InstaPunk's discussion of the distinction between ideas and verbal graffiti:

    There are plenty of verbal attacks launched by both right and left in the war of words that constitutes political discourse. You couldn't have a free political system without them. What matters is the quality and tenor of those attacks. Political passion is fueled by emotion, and emotion in an adversary situation results quite often in extreme analogies, ridicule, unfairness, and even cruelty. Yet there is a vast difference between employing verbal wit as a weapon of ridicule and employing the foulest lowest-common-denominator cusswords available to describe one's political foes and to wish for their physical destruction. The latter is not wit, which it resembles only insofar as word choices have the power to shock. When endless repetition makes them a thudding refrain used again an again and again without any attempt at irony or illuminating juxtapositions, it's merely gutter-mouthed drivel. Its only intent is to injure, not to educate, persuade, or delineate. A simple test: is there an actual punchline anywhere in sight? Or is there only an irrational need to scrawl the ugliest possible graffiti on the biggest possible wall?
    That distinction is a good one, but it's probably lost on people who consider their graffiti (which is verbal vandalism) a form of art.

    While it's a bit off-topic, even gutter drivel of the sort calculated to to injure (as opposed to "educate, persuade, or delineate") can be accomplished without resort to Carlin's dirty words. Here's a ho-hum example I photographed last year:

    DieYuppies.jpg

    Naif that I am about the ultimate meaning of words, at the time I wondered whether it might fall into the category of speech Dave Neiwert routinely condemns as "eliminationist rhetoric."

    Whatever it is, there's nothing dirty about inviting the lefties to "go sit on it."

    LINGERING QUESTION: Has anyone ever run an experiment like this to determine which side uses more "eliminationist rhetoric"?

    posted by Eric on 03.01.07 at 09:19 AM





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    I have no problem with "Die Yuppies".

    I would prefer that there was no acceleration of the process however.

    M. Simon   ·  March 1, 2007 12:26 PM

    Greenwald doesn't pluck anonymous comments and hold them up as the essence of conservative idiocy; rather, he details how that idiocy runs through all of conservativism, and evidences that with quotes from bloggers and pundits at the core of conservative media.

    jpe   ·  March 1, 2007 03:53 PM

    Yes, I have to admit Greenwald did a great job of proving Glenn Reynolds is a homophobic bigot!

    http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/004156.html

    Eric Scheie   ·  March 1, 2007 05:23 PM

    before we clutch our collective pearls in collective disgust at the left, let's take a look at newsbuckit's actual process and data.

    as i point out on skippy, while it was flattering to be labeled as one of the 18 biggest liberal blogs, there’s no traffic ranking in blogtopia and yes, i coined that phrase, that puts my blog anywhere above 500 in ranking.

    even worse, i personally couldn’t believe skippy had 419 occurrences of swear words (because i have a pretty stringent approach to using swear words only for emphatic points or jokes, and usually substitute asterisks for vowels).

    so i tried to reproduce his results, by using the same method he outlined in his piece.
    my google search resuled in a mere 137 instances, less than 1/3 of what ishmael insists skippy had.

    i also point out that he conveniently didn’t count protein wisdom written by jeff “slap your face with my c*ck” goldstein on the conservative side.

    i would suggest that instead of defending the usage of swear words, the left start attack the right’s penchant for just making sh*t up.

    skippy   ·  March 2, 2007 12:52 AM

    Oh, goody, we are going to have one of these debates.

    "He doesn't count!"
    "Well, he said something worse than anything anyone else said!"
    "He was kidding!"

    ETC.

    Jon Thompson   ·  March 2, 2007 04:39 AM

    Skippy thanks for coming. I just ran your blog with the template and I got 293

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3A+xnerg.blogspot.com+%22Shit%22+OR+%22Piss%22+OR+%22Fuck%22+OR+%22Cunt%22+OR+%22Cocksucker%22+OR+%22Motherfucker%22+OR+%22Tits%22

    Not making that up. But I never claimed this was a perfect process.

    BTW, I'm not all that interested in the use of filthy language by others. I only try to avoid getting my blog blocked by the net nannies.

    I also object to the idea that I can be charged with responsibility for what someone else said.

    Eric Scheie   ·  March 2, 2007 08:34 AM

    Skippy, I'm not an expert on this process, but I think that it makes a difference if you have a space between the colon which appears after the word "site" and the blog URL -- and I don't understand why it should. I tried again without the space and I got only 136 for you:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Axnerg.blogspot.com+%22Shit%22+OR+%22Piss%22+OR+%22Fuck%22+OR+%22Cunt%22+OR+%22Cocksucker%22+OR+%22Motherfucker%22+OR+%22Tits%22&btnG=Search

    So "you" are cleaner than "I" am!

    My congratulations.

    Eric Scheie   ·  March 2, 2007 09:07 AM

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