The real repercussions, and also why this my be hard to expose, is who else knew. Any elector, state assembly memeber, governor, Senator, Congress person or other election official knew of his ineligibility but voted, certified or counted the votes, then they are culpable for defrauding the election and attempting to install an illegal president.

I think we'd definitely want to look at all those who were so adamant at not exposing the birth certificate as to whether they were dupes or malicious conspirators.

Here is what the governor said:

http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html

***QUOTE***

Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.

***END QUOTE***

Is saying "there is a recording of the birth" really the same as saying there isn't a long form, or that he can't find it?

I don't think so, but I do think they're playing games to tweak the right wing. Hawaii has already certified Obama was born there, which they can -- and there isn't a whole lot anyone can do about it short of proving conclusively that he wasn't.

I hasten to add that there is nothing in the Constitution requiring anyone to submit a "long form." For much of our history, parental accounts of birth were simply taken at their word.

Careful - this is WND we're talking about here, and they're not exactly the most reliable source. For example, I see nothing in the original">http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html">original Honolulu Star Advertiser story that suggests that the "governor can't find [the] Obama [long-form] birth certificate" as the WND headline trumpets. In fact, their article specifically admits that "Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."

Executive summary: the WND headline is a bald-faced lie, contradicted by the original source and their own article. The MSM aren't the only ones that do bad journalism.

If you're looking in Hawaii, you're looking in the wrong place. Anne Dunham lived her teen-aged years in say Mercer's Island, Washington. A mixed race child still not being very well-accepted at the time in the US, there is more than idle speculation that Barack Hussein's original birth certificate would have come from the more tolerant Canadian city just across the border, Vancouver.

Hawaii has certified he was born there. States have a right to do that. It's like a judgment, a death certificate, or a divorce decree.

Unless someone can show proof of fraud, the rest is speculation. The duty is not on Hawaii to prove the validity of their records, nor is it on Obama. That is the way official records work.

Unless they have something tangible, I think that people who want to look beyond the official record for further proof are wasting their time -- and of course helping Obama.

Eric,

It may matter next election as a number of states have passed laws.

What is needed these days to meet the "standing" issue is so narrow as to make the facts of Obambi's birth irrelevant. But let's assume his real birth certificate is found and it documents what the birthers fear, and Obambi confirms those details, there is nobody empowered to remove him from Office except under impeachment. Was it a clear felony to pass as a citizen? On the earth where we live does anyone think the Senate will vote to convict? Every day that goes by is one less reason for the Ruling Class to tolerate any legal action over this matter. "Barry's only x days from leaving office, why should I risk my neck to throw him out?"

I'm certain there is something being covered up, probably ID of father or the date of birth, but this tilting at windmills is stupid. You can't get into court and there is nobody to enforce the ruling if it goes the way we want. Other than that, there is no reason to not charge at the windmills.

If it never existed, it wasn't lost.

I think the Obama team is playing games to keep the issue on the back burner, and are waiting for the opportune moment to release further original documentation. If states pass laws requiring something more than an official short form to run for president, Team Obama will roll their eyes and come up with it maybe in the summer of 2012.

(And the narrative going into the election will be "We told you all along those birthers were being unreasonable!")

Hawaii has certified he was born there. States have a right to do that. It's like a judgment, a death certificate, or a divorce decree.

No, they certified they have a record which claims he was born there. Not the same thing.

Unless someone can show proof of fraud, the rest is speculation. The duty is not on Hawaii to prove the validity of their records, nor is it on Obama. That is the way official records work.

The duty of any state that is part of our nation is to uphold our laws. The duty of any man who wants to lead us is to uphold our laws.

Unless they have something tangible, I think that people who want to look beyond the official record for further proof are wasting their time -- and of course helping Obama.

It is the duty of every American to act in accordance with American Law. It is the EXPLICIT duty of the Election boards in All 50 states to verify a candidate's qualifications prior to placing him on the ballot.

What occurred was malfeasance by incompetence on the part of the State election boards, and intentional malfeasance by Nancy Pelosi who Certified Obama as meeting the requirements in the absence of sufficient proof that he does so.

What makes this issue even more stupid is that Birth on the soil does not confer the status of "Natural Born Citizen." That can only be inherited by being born to two citizen parents.

Obama is illegitimate no matter how you slice it.

You take WND seriously?

I won't bore you with a long list of links, just try this Google search to get a little of it. They're lying wackaloons. Debunked repeatedly, and not ashamed of it.

You take WND seriously?

I won't bore you with a long list of links, just try this Google search to get a little of it. They're lying wackaloons. Debunked repeatedly, and not ashamed of it.
Don · January 20, 2011 3:18 PM

What does WND have to do with anything? I take article II of the US Constitution seriously, and I believe it means what it says.

Don't you?

Oh, look...turns out it was a hoax. Who knew?